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Pole Barn Needed, Where to buy or Style and Size?

16K views 65 replies 29 participants last post by  1morebite  
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I have a 30x40 horse barn that I just use for storage. Its not ideal since it has a post inside the barn every 10 ft so very hard to maneuver inside with the tractor and some trailers. Could use some ideas on how to remove and support with beams if anyone has done this.
My new plan is to build a new garage it or pole barn, somewhere from a 20x24 up to 30x40 max. Only place ive really looked is the Menards kits so far. Anyone have suggestions? I want something that looks halfway decent since this is at my house, but nothing fancy as Id think that gets expensive quick. Any pictures of barns you have a ballpark price range? Im in Livingston County.
 
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I think you will better serve yourself if you give a location where you are at so you can get some info from people near you on who they have used in the area
 
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I removed a couple of posts on my lean-to after we built it. Initially, I didn't think about wider bays and we built it by setting all of the posts 8' OC. It didn't take me long to realize that mistake as I had a couple of 12' implements which wouldn't fit between the outside posts.

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So....before we poured the concrete we cut off a couple of posts and ran 16' laminated 2x12' beams to span the 16'

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BTW - My barn and lean-to were built by Cleary Buildings and they use laminated 2X6's for posts which are engineered to be much stronger than 6X6 posts where, even with pressure treating you can't treat the middle of the posts. They also tack cleats at the bottom of the posts which makes them very difficult to pull out...

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This is what the redo looks like...

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I don't know what they are rated for but the building inspector didn't have any problem with them. I've had over 3' of snow on the roof a couple times and haven't had any issues yet.

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I built the original barn in 2006 and added the lean-to 3 years later. As Luv2 mentioned, with the current price of building materials I would not want to be building it today. After adding the lean-to and insulating and finishing off the interior or the barn I took an additional 100K policy on top of the base 37K which my insurance covered for outbuildings. Since then I added an 850 square foot man cave inside. When we renewed our homeowners insurance this year we added another 100K on top of that. Building costs are adding up fast...I realize you aren't planning to build that big but you still need to be ready for "sticker shock" because it won't be cheap at today's prices.

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#11 ·
I had one built by Chelsea Lumber in Lenawee county (just south of you) in 2009 at my previous house. 40x60x16 with an enclosed 14' x 60 lean to along one side. It was $34K back then for the bare barn with concrete in the main barn only, crushed limestone in the enclosed lean to, completed by a contractor. Lumber and steel were a lot cheaper back then. If you go in to Chelsea lumber (they have a couple locations I believe) they will work with you to design what you want and give you a quote for either just materials or completely built. Also, you may want to email Morton and some of the steel building dealers out there, like versa tube. You can save a bit by putting those up yourself. I was doing some research last year to put up a barn and was figuring I needed to budget around $50K for a 40x60 with no lean to. I did not get a quote from Chelsea but got several quotes for materials and the steel buildings online. One thing the builder told me that the salesman at the lumber yard didn't (after I had already paid CL for the barn and labor) was that it would have been cheaper for me to go 40x80 than have that lean to built. At the time, the labor was more expensive for that additional work than the materials. Not sure that is still the case but I have heard many builders are running pretty far behind as well as issues getting materials. Just saying, if you are thinking about a couple options ask for quotes to build both ways.
 
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I had a plain Jane 30x48x10 w sliding doors both ends put up 5 yrs ago. Menards. No laminated posts, didn't know about them, sigh. Paid someone to build it, 18k total. Got a $1200 rebate.
My neighbor built one himself the year before that, 24x24x10, said Chelsea Lumber had the best price for wood and design. He got the metal from Reurink in Ionia.
They say go to the max size possible, in no time you'll wish it was bigger.
 
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I had a plain Jane 30x48x10 w sliding doors both ends put up 5 yrs ago. Menards. No laminated posts, didn't know about them, sigh. Paid someone to build it, 18k total. Got a $1200 rebate.
My neighbor built one himself the year before that, 24x24x10, said Chelsea Lumber had the best price for wood and design. He got the metal from Reurink in Ionia.
They say go to the max size possible, in no time you'll wish it was bigger.
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Yep - Figure out how big you think you need it…and then double it!
 
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I was looking at the kits at Menards like I said, and I didn't think the prices were too terrible for something in an acceptable size (24x27 for example). Sure maybe this is more than it was a year or 2 ago, but it was still within reason for me to buy. IF someone can tell me if I wait a year or 2 I can build one twice the size for same price Im all in. Any predictions on lumber pricing??
I do have the 30x40 barn, but like I said the posts inside every 10 ft is so stupid and annoying to deal with. Looks like the 4x4 posts go up to the roof and uses them to support the 2nd story loft and the roof rather than a truss type construction. Its fine for horses, but I dont have horses it was here when i moved in. I could fix ER up nice and make new doors that seal, concrete the floor, but until I have a way to eliminate those posts....its not high on my list to fix up more. If someone has a way to mod Im ALL ears.
 
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You can get trusses that will match your existing roof line that will span 30 feet allowing you to eliminate a run of posts.

Any of the truss companies can make your trusses to do that.

They could even make them in halves, for easier installation, where you bolt them together in the middle but you would still have to make sure that the girder on the outside wall was up to the task of holding the tails.

That opens up the floor, but may or may not do anything for you on the gable ends and the door heights.
 
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Have an engineer come over and take a look. Perhaps some steel beams across the span where you eliminate a post.
 
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I cringe at the the thought of building any structure right now with the price of materials. I built my pole barn (40x40 16 foot to the trusses) in 2009. I bought the whole kit, design ,lumber, steel, and delivery from Lowe’s for $8300. I had local carpenters charge 4K for the assembly. It took them about 3 days. It took another 2k to wire my whole barn from an electrician buddy.
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#22 · (Edited)
I was looking to build a 40x60x12' as a kit. In February 2020 price was $26k 4 week lead time. In August price was $29k 14 week lead time (didn't want it showing up in Nov...). In February 2021 price was $48k 12 week lead time. In fall of 2019 I had a contractor quote me $49k, I wouldn't have to lift a finger... All these prices are same structure specs, no concrete, no electrical. Contractors materials was higher quality/specs than the kit I was pricing. This was direct through Hanson buildings. Obviously have not bought anything but the quoting process was good and people are responsive

there is currently sunflowers and clover planted where my building was supposed to be. I am waiting until prices settle down.
 
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I bought a house with a 30x40 pole barn and after doing a major purge of "stuff" when I sold my last house it only took me a few months to wish I had a bigger barn.

Go bigger...
 
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Does anyone have recommendations on contractors to have this built in the Hartland/Fenton area? I really wanted to build myself but if the prices are any good Id consider hiring it out. I will be chipping away at it over time if I do it. Even if I wait a few months or more, Id like to have plans getting going.
 
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I was planning on building this past spring, but material costs made me hold off. During the quote process I found a huge difference between builders. Not only in price but in how they built their pole barns. Some swear the only way to build is to sheet the roof with OSB under the metal with trusses on 2 foot centers. Others swear that is old school and not necessary. Some charge a substantial amount for overhangs, others overhangs were part of their standard build.

My suggestion is to decide what you want, and make sure your quotes are apples to apples.
 
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Well just got back 2 more quotes 54,000$ and a 85,000$ both these had OSB under roof .The 60,500$ had no OSB board.Yep going to buy a storage container and use it as my storage till the prices subside.I did price out a pole barn package in September at the local lumber store it was 23,000$ and that was when OSB was 41$ a sheet it is now 25$ so it would be 22k plus now maybe cheaper with steel prices a little lower.