Looking for bait?

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I would assume

 

Wonder who called ?

 

I wouldn't think they send a plane cause of phone call. This is cwd hot zone! Probably don't help he has a huge sugar beat pile in his yard 50 yards from road, can't miss it.

 

I don’t haha.

 

No I didn't call

 

I heard from a CO they will be much more aggressive prosecuting baiting violations in 2019. The parties over folks.


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I heard from a CO they will be much more aggressive prosecuting baiting violations in 2019. The parties over folks.


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I have heard the same locally. They are anticipating writing aggressively and are working with prosecutors and judges to see larger fines levied. I believe the baiting enforcement emphasis is coming from higher up in the DNR. There maybe a push to consider a deer shot over bait to be poached which would increase penalties many times over.

 

How do you know it was a DNR plane?

 

I don't but I don't believe planes can fly that low. Maybe they were looking for weed plants, or a fugitive, maybe a missing person?

 

:woohoo1::woohoo1:

 

What would really be impressive is if they would give them a patch to sew on their cap ...like a helmet sticker...everytime they bust a guy with a bait pile. Maybe a sugar beet emblem?

 

I think using dump trucks is a little excessive.

 

Rumor at work is people in Holland area near Riley Trail getting $300 tickets for feeding deer. Cannot verify, but the claim is they are going door to door

 

Good question.
Christmas Eve, almost no one hunting at this time of year compared to 1 month ago and the DNR is going to send up a plane to look for bait ? I think this is very unlikely.
Does the DNR own plane(s) ? How many ?

L & O

I know some times various entities utilize the same flight. Drug flights and DEQ sometimes combine with DNR and some private pilots give CO's coordinates.

 

Is Holland in the CWD zone?

 

Yes, Ottawa county management zone.

 

If you read the Bi-weekly report exceptionally the last one there was a LOT busted for baiting with the help of their plane. I wonder of the fines for a bucks go to the state or the local government like the rest of the tickets.

 

No doubt. About 350,000 hunters bait. If 1/10 of 1%(1 out of a 1000) got a ticket, that would be 350 tickets.

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DNR does have planes. I know a guy that is a pilot for them.

 

I can tell u for a fact, they where looking for something today yup today!

 

Seems like they would switch over to drones shortly. Less expensive an not much noise. Would not ever know they are watching.

 

I was thinking the same thing. I can see anything with my drone that someone in a plane with binos can see. Can't cover as much ground, but would be a good way to target suspected violators.

 

So they spend $ 1000s of dollars to give a guy a ticket for baiting. What is the fine. I believe it should at least cover the cost. But have a feeling it doesn't.

 

This one might be by the ton, last time I seen it was 4-5 dump trucks. Not in his yard, middle of swamp.

 

Dam That's alot of bait.

 

That's pretty good. Spend $2 for every $1 taken in. Sounds like the IRS.

 

Wouldn't helicopters be better than planes for this job ? Not really, Twice the operating and maintenance cost, Planes can do the recon and send coordinates to the ground troops for Round-Up, and embarrassment.

 

I was fishing this past fall from my kayak and one of those damn DNR drones kept buzzing over the top of me. That thing was pissing me off wasn't doing nothing wrong but it hovered over me about 20min. It makes you kinda feel violated.


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Yeah...especially when you're doing a #2 in the woods!!!

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There Will be a bunch of guys saying they didn't know, Just like anytime a new rule is put in place. My FIL thought I was joking when I told him his friends couldn't bait any more. This was yesterday. I swear folks don't read or pay attention to the news.

 

I can hear it already.....”if it was illegal the stores wouldn’t be selling it...” SMH

 

What's the fine for shooting a drone down ?

 

I'm sure it's waaaayy more than a $350 bait pile. Probably much more satisfying though...

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In the age of drones they are maintaining and manning planes?

 

What's the fine for shooting a drone down ?

It is a felony federally and is punishable by fine and up to 20 yrs in prison.

Federal courts ruled on it in Boggs vs meredith.

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It is a felony federally and is punishable by fine and up to 20 yrs in prison.

Federal courts ruled on it in Boggs vs meredith.

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This is incorrect. The case you referenced was dismissed, and never ruled on.

Shooting down a drone still falls under a grey area. Theres not enough case law or precedence yet to provide definitive clarity. The FAA has said that shooting one down is federally punishable, however theres conflicting precedent that provides a property owner with some ability to take action to protect said property.

Bottom line, if you shoot one down, you'll initially get in hot water for it. If you have the time, the desire, and most importantly enough "F-U money", there's a chance that you could fight it all the way to the supreme court, where they (or any lower court) could potentially find you were justified in shooting the drone down in the interest of protecting your property.

 

What makes you think it was a DNR drone? Chances are, it was just someone playing with their toy.

If it was the DNR, and they're comfortable that you're not violating from afar, it's less intrusive than them pulling up boat side.

Cause the DNR had a truck about 200yds down and across the river from me looked like they where standing on a dock. It wouldn't have pissed me off so much if they had the drone 100ft away instead of 20ft directly over head. I should have launched a spoon at it and reeled it in. Next time they do that I will definitely paddle right over to them to see what's going on.


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Launching a spoon at it and reeling it in wouldn't have ended well for you.

 

What's the fine for shooting a drone down ?

$2.00


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Good question.
Christmas Eve, almost no one hunting at this time of year compared to 1 month ago and the DNR is going to send up a plane to look for bait ? I think this is very unlikely.
Does the DNR own plane(s) ? How many ?

L & O

I'm sure the officers and pilot make double time maybe even triple time on the holiday so they probably love doing this on Christmas eve.

 

Shouldn't bait in a no baiting cwd zone.

 

maybe a good start would be for gas stations and stores to quit selling it.

 

Maybe have the sellers log the buyers drivers license number and make them sign for the bait purchase, then the CO can use the log to help investigations and be used as evidence.