Barnes - accurate and hard hitting

 

Bad Scope or you are nor seated right in your stock.
If you are not using a Sled then that could be the trouble.

The Sled proves the Gun, then the rest is on you.

 

My Hornady black groups excellent at 200, browns good too.. Black, tighter..
Every gun different though. My buddy says his likes the federal ammunition.

 

Black box and brown box shoot equally as well out of my cva scout

 

This is the first I’ve heard of a ruger American shooting 3” groups with hornady blacks.

 

First time ever hearing hornady blacks doing anything more then 1" at 100yds most have bullet holes touching! I would check scope first!

 

Black box and brown box shoot equally as well out of my cva scout

My buddy at cabelas asked why I wanted black, brown and black same exact just different color boxes. Told him I've shot my gun enough to know different.

Brown softball "sisish" at 200, black box smaller then a baseball. Both kill. But I like most accurate. My gun knows the difference.

OP shoot multiple brands. Maybe your gun likes a different round. Shoot, shoot, shoot some more

 

I totally get what your saying A.J. I've shot bucks with both. Both deer dropped where I hit them. Shot placement definitely factors in. Like you said, lose a little meat in the front quarter and you'll find your deer!!

 

Dump the blacks, the Barnes group also, AND stay together. 100yds,5 rounds

 

Thank guys for all your replies. I have access to a sled. And I wanted to know what other brands and weights that everyone else has been having good performance with out of your guns. Have never shot anything other than Black and willing to try some other brands to elimimate a possibility. I've been shooting this gun for the last 4 years and have checked the zero every year before season at 100 yds. Shooting a minimum of 20 rounds each check and have never had much better grouping than 2.5 inches. I've had to change my hunting stand now to an area where most of my shots will be in 100 - 200 yd. range so I would like to get it a little tighter before I waste alot of ammo practicing out to 200. I havent ruled out that could just be me as I'm not as steady as I used to be. Will give the sled and some different types of ammo a try first before calling in a friend or 2 to try their luck shooting it.

 

Dump the blacks, the Barnes group also, AND stay together. 100yds,5 rounds

Knew these comments were coming..
I'm 11 for 11 with dead deer with brown and black. I'd say they do just fine for killing bullets I've recovered have held together.

Plumman absolutely try different if that's the best groups you're getting... 450s are much more accurate rifles then that. Good possibility your gun likes different ammo.

 

Knew these comments were coming..
I'm 11 for 11 with dead deer with brown and black. I'd say they do just fine for killing bullets I've recovered have held together.

Plumman absolutely try different if that's the best groups you're getting... 450s are much more accurate rifles then that. Good possibility your gun likes different ammo.

Same here! Have had excellent luck with the Hornaday 450 ammo at all distances.

 

You mean these rite? Yea, I have a bunch. Killed a dozen or so deer with them. Doesn't mean they are your best option!

 

You mean these rite? Yea, I have a bunch. Killed a dozen or so deer with them. Doesn't mean they are your best option!

Yes, those. Why fix something that's not broken ? Pretty sure 7 out of the 11 I've killed fell dead.. Any "deader" with other ammo?. Not sure ya can get better.

 

You seem happy. Good for you

 

Same here. I have a new Ruger American 22” and today I bought the three different deer rounds from buffalo bore to try. 250, 275 copper and 300 grain.

 

Same here. I have a new Ruger American 22” and today I bought the three different deer rounds from buffalo bore to try. 250, 275 copper and 300 grain.

I know all guns shoot different, but let me know what you find between those 3 rounds. I'm looking to replace my Hornady Customs with one that has a better bullet!

 

I picked these up last fall. Black Butterfly 275 grain Hex saw. 2050 ft per second. They claim 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards.
I'm shooting a savage 110 with a 3x9 vortex scope.
The target below is shooting off of a bench at 100 yards. I am not a rifle shooter, but man these perform like they say ballistically.
I have not taken a deer with these yet so I can't speak of their knock down power.

 

My opinion. Polymer tip bullets should only be used where needed - in tube fed magazines.

Any other use is using a bullet of lower ballistic coefficient.

A solid lead/brass jacket is IME likely to have less drop than the same weight polymer tipped b bullet.

My best groupings with the 450 are with match grade (weight) Hornady 245g SP on 37.5g of Lil Gun. (Also match) OAL 2.136.

1 inch groups at 100 yard. 2 - 2.5 inch at 200. ( seems better in higher temps).

Factory polymer tips did not even come close.

(20 inch bbl. Bushmaster Ar15)

 

Have the Ruger American Ranch (16 inch barrel) with the barnes 250 grain ttsx reload and the herters ( winchester) both shoot 1 inch at 100 yards. Try shooting off sand bags and see what your groups are. Try a box of barnes.