I told you guys i would get back after the weekend and let you know how i did with my centerpin. Your guys advice was very helpful and much appreciated. I stuck with the 12 pound siglon and 8 pound seagar floro combo. Took on the Mo friday night and went 1 for 1. It wasnt a large fish but well worth the battle. Saturday we got up early and headed back to the Mo again and I went 2 for 2. We only fished for a few hours since the winds got very nasty. First fish was just a skippy but the second was a fresh chromer hen that went very acrobatic. Got to love it. Then on sunday me and the girl friend went out to my favorite stretch on a smaller west michigan river and ended up going 0 for 8. It was raining hard and we watched the water rise literally before our eyes. I stuck with my pin rod the whole time, but i wanted her to land a fish so i hooked 2 with my level wind and unfortunatley they both pulled loose. At least she was able to get the sensation of fighting one. Shes HOOKED!! I guess the only thing im having trouble with is managing how much pressure to hold on a fish since the drag is all done by hand. The fish that i hooked in the smaller river all tried to make long runs down or up stream and headed for brush. I believe i applied too much pressure since one of my lines broke completely. That never has happened with my line combos. They were all very large fish and very active. I dont know how to post pictures but i will try. Thaks everyone.