Hooked lots of silver fish casting for walleye at night using no glow lures, so you dont need a lure that glows to hook silver fish at night. But when I cast for kings at night I am throwing a glow spoon.
I personally have never seen a bright moonshine spoon out fish a regular glow spoon at night. They changed the paint on the new cleo's and KO's like 2 years ago. The old spoons have a dull flat finish to them, the newer ones have a shiny finish to them. The older spoons glowed better than the newer ones do, but some nights they seem to like a spoon thats not as bright. A buddy used a newer KO and did quite well with it last year.In ultra clear water at night, the very bright moonshine type glow seems too much. The older Cleo/KO paint seems more effective. For reasons that are unclear moonshine type glow has been better to me from dusk to dark than dark to dawn. I’ve caught fish in the dark on non-glow spoons (including browns, that I have never caught on a glow spoon), but as the ‘dude says kings seem to prefer them.
I think you’ll find that most guys are using superlines, barrel swivel, leader material and a clip. Use whatever hook you’re confident with but carry a sharpener and keep them needle sharp. Kings have a hard mouth and if after 2,001 casts, one hits, I want it pinned. I’ve never seen hooks on a chain out there.On the Cleo's topic, dare I admit to be relatively new at spoon chuck'n...
I got a multipack of Cleo's some time ago. Some have split rings, some don't🤔.
Is this an intended difference, a lazy factory, or perhaps I got some counterfeits.
I also wonder if a swivel should make its way onto said split ring, or perhaps up higher between main line and leader.
And, my saltwater mind wants to put Siwash hooks on 'em. The stock hooks appear a little lame. I could see a ballchain swivel go between the spoon the hook too, you know to put a little flexible weight on the arse might enhance that wobble.
While I'm at it, any split-shot tricks?
Any talk on the terminal tackle for rigging Cleo's for casting would be very welcome. Thanks for sharing people!
Interesting method. I bet it would work but I’d get worn out rippin that thing. Casting is hard enough after 3 hours. Which reg are you referring to?out of curiosity has anyone casted twitching jigs off the pier/surf? Tempted to try them and see if i have any success with them. Would use them in the river, but our regulations doesn't allow them. Seems to be a very popular method out west.
Loved the Maulers back in the day. Living in SE Michigan it was a 2hr 45 minute bombing run either way to fish Oscoda or Grand Haven. For whatever reasons, Maulers caught more fish in Oscoda and Cleos seemed better at Grand Haven. The other lure that worked well for both kings and walleye (in the same night) at Oscoda was a firetiger size 11 countdown rapala reeled ridiculously slow just off the bottom (lakeside). I never quite understood how a lure that didn't glow and that was barely even moving attracted fish but they'd slam it.
I can't image how my biceps would feel after jigging for a few hours and THEN hooking into a 20lb king. No weighted hooks allowed in most rivers. Also don't really want to be called out for snagging on rivers that it is allowed. Looks a little suspicious when you're constantly ripping the lure in the river LOL, also too much wood in Michigan.Interesting method. I bet it would work but I’d get worn out rippin that thing. Casting is hard enough after 3 hours. Which reg are you referring to?
I'll defiantly bring some for fun to try it out. Who knows maybe they'll be more effective than black spinners for coho.Oddly a couple years ago on a calm September morning in grand haven the pier started out loaded with guys which rapidly petered out nearly fishless. A young guy came out to fish for “whatever bites”, with a three inch twister tail and caught a couple 4-5 pound cohos.
I went back to my vehicle, to grab a couple steelhead jigs (but nope, they weren’t there). I’ve nearly worn the paint off a couple waiting for a similar day. There’s another guy I saw getting a bobber attacked by a coho. He switched over to a steelhead marabou jig and caught a coho too.