Thank you. I run 10lb pancakes with the fins. Not too much BB but surely a little. I get a good view of their depth off the graph and that's a good thing considering that my old Big Jon riggers have counters that are highly questionable. I've been running 30' back off the ball but I think we'll extend that this AM. I use the rubber band method off my Black's releases and they hook up nicely as far as I know.35-50 back. Free sliders get a lot of the hits but main line holds its own some days. I like 12lb cannonballs. I think anything less has too much blowback to be effective. Hope this helps. Also since using chamberlain releases on Andy’s boat once I have since got rid of all my pad releases and hook ups are way better for me.
@ausable holler for Freyja on 68 if you're out there. We'll be hitting it hard all morning and then again in the afternoon/evening and we can compare notes. I'll share any intel I can with you. Its our last day up here in Tawas and then there's nothing left but maybe a trip or two out of Lexington/Sanilac this fall and bowhunting.
Good luck to all and thanks as well for all the help.