the two machines you seen n.e. of you was me.Went out there this morning 3/4 mile 8 fow dont waste your time cutting a hole anywhere between shore and the .50 mark theres double ice. ice thins out at .55 to 8-9 inches . seen a few machines ne of me about a mile or so from shore . Its kinda scary with the fresh snow because all looks the same , there slowwly creeping outward by the weekend Im sure there will be groups out farther. theres a trail developing out the launch at state park Id stay on it and check thickness out farther. Caught a ton of small walleye nothing legal and a few nice perch.