[Josh R]

Things change over time, rules and laws should be open for adjustments

To just sit back and let one side do whatever they want is not right, people start pushing back when they get backed into a corner or witnessing things getting destroyed. It usually doesn't end well....

 

[Josh R]

The treaty then is also the treaty now. Research is easy on that subject.

Treaties can be revised and amended

 

[Josh R]

If charter captains and the tourism interests wanted to be included in the treaty they would have been at the table in

Are we enforcing 1836 rules and means or just the rules?
How many Charter Captains and how much tourism was around in 1836?

 

[Josh R]

Obvious those groups were not forward thinkers. In their opinion they have a vested interest but in the big picture they have none since they were not at the table in the beginning.

As for enforcement the DNR is charged with enforcing the sport fishers but are not allowed to enforce anything in regards to the tribal fishermen per the Federal courts. The tribe provides enforcement on tribal regulations, if they choose to not enforce their regulations it’s their choice. Non tribal members do not know if action was taken or not taken.

You didn't answer the second question because you do not want to
A business can't have a seat at the table if the business wasn't around when the table was set.

 

[Josh R]

Yeah, casinos are definitely part of their tradition!

 

[Josh R]

A native commercial fishermen, we've finally pinned ya down

 

[Josh R]

So now we know that the CPMR group knows how the state has been negotiating on our, or the states, resources behalf. That's why this was all started, it wouldn't have came up if they were for the good of the resources..........

 

[Josh R]

Latest article, dated the 9th of August

Angling coalition says State of Michigan is not representing its members; hearing set for late August - Michigan United Conservation Clubs

A coalition fighting to protect Michigan’s sport fish and recreational fishing will have its request to intervene in a treaty right case in federal court August 25.

mucc.org

 

[Josh R]

I'm beginning to think the head of the DNR is Native

 

[Josh R]

.........or a commercial netter!

Commercial and Native since they're pretty much the same!!!

 

[Josh R]

Deadline has passed, correct? thought it was the 30th, maybe something has come out and I just have not heard about it

 

[Josh R]

Unless they enforce themselves it will be game on

 

[Josh R]

Think it will be delayed again?

 

[Josh R]

Gotta thank our resident MS commercial fishermen for that and gotta send a big shout out to Senator McBroom!

 

[Josh R]

You hard core, one sided, proponents of your feelings are blinded by the reality of making new laws. It's always your way or no way.....
Remember, bull headed people that only look in one direction almost always lose

I think you're wrong.....
Bull headed people won it looks like

 

[Josh R]

Josh
If you are talking about the failure of the non Tribal commercial netting law updates, I think the process won. One side would not budge 1 inch, the other side had the power to kill the bill. Now that the political power shifted in the Legislature, compromise solutions will get a Bill passed. Back room deals with linkages to other non related Bills will get horse traded to get multiple Bills passed.

No, I'm talking about the consent decree

 

[Josh R]

Zero steps forward, 3 steps back

 

[Josh R]

He ain't gonna donate, it'll hurt his bottom line!!

 

[Josh R]

I'm betting those LED markers fail the first time or are poorly attached and fall into the water. The Tribes have a well documented history of non compliance, why should they change now.......hopefully they will change.
I did not watch the conversation, I don't use facebook. Did the conversation change your position regarding the new Consent changes? Are you more positive or negative?

Pretty easy to find.....