Do you believe Antler Point Restrictions are a social or scientific deer management practice?
Very well said, And it is being pushed on the public land hunter primarily for and by the landowners, So the public hunter wont shoot their sparky'sMost of Michigans land mass is in private ownership. The owners have allways had the power to manage their land for deer the way they see fit. They do not need more regulations. They have allways had the power to manage their land.
Most if not all Public Land in Michigan is at or below deer density goals. There is no need to place more restrictions on this land to control the population.
Since public land is not where the problem is, APR's are nothing more than controling the neighbors trigger finger and force him to make the decision that is socially exceptable.
Just to set the record straight, not sure what your source is but this is not a very accurate representation of what has occurred so far at the workgroup meetings, in my opinion.FYI, at the first meeting of the APR workgroup the overall majority of participants felt that mandatory APR's were not feasible and I believe were dropped from consideration. The workgroup now is discussing the current procedure for determining if APR's will be used in a DMU. Currently it takes a 66% approval but the QDMA wants that reduced to 51%. Also the curent survey answers are YES, NO, NO OPINION and DON'T CARE. No opinion has no value and Don't care is used as a NO vote. The QDMA wants the Don't care to have no value so that just the YES ans NO votes are considered. Keep in mind that this post is just a condensed version of 6 hours of presentations and disscussions. Please join us at the next meeting in December.
My recollection of the discussion from the first meeting in regards to Mandatory APR's was not in the context of a statewide restriction but simply whether individuals favored a mandatory or voluntary approach to APR's. I'd concur that the overwhelming majority voiced opposition to mandatory APR's but it was not my impression that the opposition was limited to an all encompassing statewide APR, it was opposition to mandatory APR's in general, which I was kind of surprised by (not to say that I was disappointed. )Munster, as I said previously this was a condensed version of the discussions. I have kept meticulous notes and these are my recollections of the discussions. At the first meeting everyone was ask their feelings toward APR's and the overwhelming majority spoke against mandatory statewide APR's. Just my observations. I thought people that can't attend might want to know whats happening. Feel free to express your recollections as this is an important issue for todays deer hunters.
How is that different from whats currently happening now? Those same 1.5yo are still being taken out of the herd.Purely social. I believe APR's cause "High Grading". If you take your best 1-1/2 yr. olds out of the herd because they make the APR's set by law and are legal to shoot, you will see an overall degradation of the buck population.