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If you have been following Michigan HB5180 work through the legislative process here in Michigan and have been wondering if this new technology will be accurate enough for ethical deer hunting - you need to check this out!

So we finally got out with the Air Venturi Air Bolt system for the AirForce Texan. This kit is amazingly accurate and POWERFUL! At 550 feet per second - we were slinging 375 grain air bolts into the backstop and the only way we could stop them from going through anything and everything we put in front of them was to back up a ways. When I say we backed up a bit - I mean like 150 yards. Well... while we are out this far, let's try hitting a AirGunDepot.com Long Ranger Golf Ball! NAILED IT BABY!!!!
 

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Yes accurate enough to hunt but the question is which season?
 

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Yes accurate enough to hunt but the question is which season?
The bill says any season where a firearm is legal. Maybe it was noted and I missed it, the 450’ rule would be in effect.
 

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I have dreaded the day ever since I first learned about these things. The nearly perfect poaching weapon they should be legal only during firearms season, for deer. The bill is as it should be, treat them like the gun they are.
 

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I have dreaded the day ever since I first learned about these things. The nearly perfect poaching weapon they should be legal only during firearms season, for deer. The bill is as it should be, treat them like the gun they are.
Can you clarify how this would be any more of a weapon of choice for poachers vs. a crossbow or any other archery equipment?
 

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It functions as a gun but there is no powder so a poacher could shoot a deer with it then exchange the air bow for a legal bow. There is no way for a CO to prove the deer was shot with an illegal weapon. This tactic is one tried many times by poachers. Fortunately there is powder residue left on the deer from the shot so it`s easy for law enforcement to detect.

Don`t misunderstand me. I am not opposed to the people being able to own and use these guns. I just see potential for abuse by some. That should never preclude the rest of us from having access.
 

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I have dreaded the day ever since I first learned about these things. The nearly perfect poaching weapon they should be legal only during firearms season, for deer. The bill is as it should be, treat them like the gun they are.
These airbows are loud. They are much louder than a suppressed rifle. So don't be worried about the airbow, worry about suppressed weapons for poaching. So, let's face it, if poaching is going to happen there is nothing we can do about it but turn in everyone we see doing it.
 

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Yes accurate enough to hunt but the question is which season?
Yeah, they'll need their own season. An maybe a special spear only season. And a slingshot season. :(
 
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With the way things are going why be worried about an "air bow"? I think I said a few years back we will soon be allowed to use the firearm described in the thirty point buck song.
 

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If they want to make them legal for the firearms season that is fine. It is time to end crap being added to the bow season.
 

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I think I remember something about an aluminum arrow in a .410 shell with the shot taken out of it back in the 80s in the NELP for bow hunting.
 

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I want to reduce the number of bow hunters. An air bow is essentially a firearm and should be treated as such. Michigan makes far too many concessions to bow hunters, and this should not be expanded.
 
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Airguns are no longer considered firearms.

Honestly I see no difference between airgun and xbow aside from width.
You are correct but the exception is for hunting where it is considered a firearm where all firearm rules apply. The hunting digest states pneumatics are considered firearms for hunting purposes.

A pneumatic weapon uses compressed air to propel the projectile where a longbow, recurve bow, compound bow and crossbow uses a string to propel the projectile. Big difference in MHO.
 

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You are correct but the exception is for hunting where it is considered a firearm where all firearm rules apply. The hunting digest states pneumatics are considered firearms for hunting purposes.

A pneumatic weapon uses compressed air to propel the projectile where a longbow, recurve bow, compound bow and crossbow uses a string to propel the projectile. Big difference in MHO.
Air vs string as it relates to killing a deer makes no real difference. Still need no practice past sight in, no draw. I guess I just don't care if it were legal now.
 

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Dam I really need to start paying attention to the titles of these threads, I thought it ment airguns as in "pellet gun" not air bow. I am in no way in favor of this contraption being aloud in bow season. My God , just man up ,grab a real bow and go hunting. If you can't well then use a xbow. We have become a society of "anything easier".
 
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