Thanks all, One more question. I looked through all the catalogs with a buddy last night, and Leupold, Burris, Weaver, and Nikon all have 4-12x40 or 4-14x40 scopes within $50 of each other. Then, in roughly the same price range, I can move to the 6-20x40's. My qustion is, is 6x gonna be to magnified for anything under say 70yards? Max range would be good, but I dont want something that I cant use under 100yds.