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I'm new to fly fishing and having bad time starting out. Ordered a reddington chromer that broke in half on the 3rd cast. Went to Nomad anglers in GR and they sold me an echo 10'10" #8. Now after a month of waiting for shipping, trying to research and buy the right stuff, going to fly shops. I can't cast to save my life. It's like the shooting head is just stuck in the water. It's a 425 grain skagit max. I'm gonna try the 575 skagit max short I ordered on accident for the now broken chromer. Any tips for a total beginner? Or anyone near that show me how to do this? Tried some fly shops but casting classes were cancelled due to covid.
Thanks all the help guys.

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Hey Man,

Proper disclosure - I rep Echo for the upper Midwest. The best head for that SR is the Skagit Scout from Airflo in a 510gr or something similar (OPST, SA etc). You want a SHORT Skagit head. This will help you tremendously in your casting.

As for the tip...you want the length of your tippet/tip to be within 2-3’ of the length of your rod...you are there. The other general “rule” is that you want the total length of your head/tip/leader to be approx 2.5x length of your rod. A 15’ head, plus a 10’ tip, plus a 2-3’ leader would be perfect.

Get a short Skagit system for the SR. For the Chromer, that Skagit Max should work better because it’s a longer rod.

Finally, disregard tip weight. Skagit casting is also known as “water load,” casting...meaning the sink tip anchors the d-loop. The only weight that matters is the head weight because this is the only weight in the air when you’re loading the rod to cast. Another type of casting is Scandinavian style, or “touch and go,” casting. In this type of casting your sink tip or polyleader weight should be included in your overall system weight. But we can save that discussion for a future day.

Good luck in your endeavors...spey and switch style casting are among my passions in this sport.

Cheers.

Phil
Awesome help! Thank you!
 

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Thanks for that. I did order a 400 grain commando head yesterday, should be here tuesday. If that doesn't work I'll try the 510 as you recommend. I went out this morning and the head does seem way too long. I can't get the fly a rod length from me like they do in the videos. And when I try to roll cast it goes about to the tip and the fly kinda just bounces up and back down.

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Edgewalker,

I might be able to get free next Sunday afternoon if you have time to get to Newaygo to spend some time casting. I’m not skilled but did get the hang of it after this trip where we dealt with some pretty brutal wind. I’m at the end of the video in the tan jacket and the very average sized sea trout vs. the monsters in the first half.

If the weather is good next weekend, I’m going to try to get to Newaygo.

cheers

 
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