like we have seen before, the guys at lowrance swear that their ice machines will work better than a flasher because they are not using an lcd. they are using a thin film transistor or tft. i have not talked to anyone that has one so it is a guess for us whether these new ice fishing finders can cut the mustard on the ice. i'd bet that in a few years we will all change over to them. like all new advances in technology , it will get more accepted ,just as lcd's first did , and now color screens.just a matter of time. as for lcd's on the ice. i use a heated shanty and they were fine for depth ,but even my humminbird real time sonar on my legend 1000 portable was not as clear as my vex.good for depth and marking fish ,but not as good marking a lure or a fish entering the hole. thats as much as i can share , my own 2 cents from the products i have used.