[TVCJohn]

^...so does Sunday with that south wind. Next week after Tuesday has potential too....at the moment.

 

[TVCJohn]

Has anyone tried to rig an alewife like ya do a ballyhoo?

 

[John Hine]

Has anyone tried to rig an alewife like ya do a ballyhoo?


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I used to thread them MC but didn’t add the skirt in front. I have a small hollow needle somewhere I used to thread them. Ballyhoo are tougher than ales, almost rubbery, so they hold the hook better. On ales I would bury the hook back in the side on the pic you put up. This gives the ale a bit of a bend so it will spin but they won’t last long before they tear thru. A better rig for me was in the rear end, a wrap around the head or 2, then out the mouth. I use the wrap to put a bend in the fish for spin. If it sounds like a pain it’s because it is! Lol. Once I started useing bait heads I never looked back!

 

[TVCJohn]

John....I too was thinking the ale was tender and would tear easy. The fix I have seen was the fish was wrapped in thread or thin line after hooking to keep it together. I was also thinking if you plan ahead, you could get a tougher fish like a finger mullet and use that for bait.

The lead head idea above seems like a good product to keep the fish vertical and avoid spinning. Some of the ballyhoo pics show a small egg sinker wired to the bottom of the mouth to do just this. I have a bunch of the skirts and squids I use to make my TVC flies. Those come from Florida and that is what they can be used for in the first place. I was curious if an ale could effectively be used behind the skirts/squids and if anyone has already tried it.

 

[TVCJohn]

A follow-up. I experimented around with the holes in the BH ramp today. I took some rocks, filled up the wheelbarrow and dumped them in the deepest hole. The water was up...maybe because of the rains...maybe because of the winds....or both. I watched what would happen after they were leveled out. The hydraulics from the wave action was pulling the smaller rocks back out of the hole. It seems bigger rocks will need to be used to counter the wave hydraulics. Also.... will need to talk to the concrete folks to see what is the best underwater concrete. From what I read, concrete "dries" better underwater than it does out of water. That is how they build bridge bases. The negative is it takes a bit to fully dry. If anyone has some ideas....sing out.

Can Concrete Dry Underwater? - BuilderSpace

Concrete can dry underwater even much better than it does in air. This happens when cement particles hydrate. The cement reacts chemically with water, binding together the sand and gravel.

www.builderspace.com

 

[fisheater]

While I’ve managed plenty building and carpentry projects, my trade and greatest expertise is in concrete. It’s one thing to have concrete displace water in a caisson. That is a far cry from placing concrete in what is basically a surf zone.
I would lean towards 1 x 3 limestone or larger. Limestone is angular and will roll less.

 

[fisheater]

I guess you could sandbag dike, set up a pump with a generator, and place concrete. That is a bit of an operation.

 

[TVCJohn]

I too thought about that dike idea but it seems like a project I didn't want to get into.

 

[Navyman41]

I too thought about that dike idea but it seems like a project I didn't want to get into.

pour a pad on land with pad eyes for lifting and set in the water with an excavator /loader or what ever you can get....

 

[sixft4par]

What weight downrigger weights are you guys running? I just upgraded my riggers and bought a fish hawk. The old manuals were 1:1 crank and I think they are 6# weights.

 

[someone11]

I'm running 10 or 12#

 

[fishgtbay]

#12 on Big Jon's

 

[TVCJohn]

8's on the pancakes and 10's on the fish.

 

[John Hine]

I run 14# discs with a 16# disc on my probe rigger. Cannon mag tens. But I’m a Navy guy so I’m used to larger than normal balls!😊

 

[rlbyfd]

What weight downrigger weights are you guys running? I just upgraded my riggers and bought a fish hawk. The old manuals were 1:1 crank and I think they are 6# weights.

16# on Magnum Metalz (they can take 25#)

 

[ajhallfr]

I use 12# mostly. Occasionally 15#.

 

[Honeydo]

I run 10# on my big jons

 

[Gone Coastal]

I run 14# discs with a 16# disc on my probe rigger. Cannon mag tens. But I’m a Navy guy so I’m used to larger than normal balls!😊

I’m an x-Marine, guess I’ll have to start running 18’s.LOL

 

[Jenuwine]

Here is a discussion.....So what would be your 9 rod set if you were Lake Trout Fishing in GTB or Leland? Only 2 Down riggers. Be specific, right down to what type and name of flasher or Cowbells and fly or lures? Divers? Torpedo? Wire? Copper? Braid? Whats on Boards, What is not?

 

[evil eye's]

I don't ever keep Lakers did they change the limit again in the bay john help me out

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