seems like all i read on this sight throughout the summer was how michigan deer hunting has gone to [email protected]## and there are no big bucks in michigan - the laws/rules need to be changed - QDM has to be enforced and you have to go to ohio , iowa, illinois, etc. if you want a nice deer. there have been lots and lots of great deer posted on here this fall and it`s still only bow season ! i think maybe we need to forget the hunting shows , appreciate what we have and realize that we`re not going to shoot a boone and crocket buck everytime we go out. enjoy the `09 season !