Went out of Ludington this morning with Rutstoper and Big Shooter. Thanks again guys, I learned alot. We started in about 50' and worked to about 90' we ended up 5/7, 4 kings and a laker.:fish: Spin doctors and flies seem to be the ticket, although we did get 2 on spoons. lead core got 2, 2 on dipsy divers and the other came off a rigger. nice day of fishing even with the 2-4 ft waves.