[JohnnyB87]

I've used thunderheads for decades - used up my 125 grain heads and now stick with 100 grains. But I also sharpen my own broadheads too. It won't be too long and I won't have any hair left above my wrist on my left arm. My buddy uses the same 100 grain thunderheads with his cross-bow - but - and a really big but - you have to shoot the arrow and braod head to make sure they fly where your aiming! The extra arrows in his quiver are marked as to how far off they fly from the scope cross-hairs.

Yes exactly this, and it gets worse the faster crossbow you're shooting. Drove my dad nuts. He shot thunderheads for a very long time. He finally realized he wasn't going get the thunderheads to group like he used to. And he learned this the HARD way. Now he's a rage guy, never thought I'd see the day.

 

[JohnnyB87]

Did he also think xbows had less energy down range?

God only knows 🤣

 

[stickman1978]

U put a Rage in the cage they ain't going far.

Thats what I do. Works pretty good.

 

[>WingIt<]

U put a Rage in the cage they ain't going far.

You put a rage in the blade they goin real far.

Id be curious as to the entry and exit holes. I’ve had huge blood trails with two blade single bevels 1-1/8 cut and decent ones with the same head. If you blast through the regions by the leg you’re going to have restriction on the blood trails given the leg movement blocking and unblocking the holes constantly. Either way good shots put them down quick regardless. Huge blood trail deer went 50 yards last year. Decent blood trail shot forward went 31.

 

[Luvdayoop]

You put a rage in the blade they goin real far.

Id be curious as to the entry and exit holes. I’ve had huge blood trails with two blade single bevels 1-1/8 cut and decent ones with the same head. If you blast through the regions by the leg you’re going to have restriction on the blood trails given the leg movement blocking and unblocking the holes constantly. Either way good shots put them down quick regardless. Huge blood trail deer went 50 yards last year. Decent blood trail shot forward went 31.

Lol that’s typical of mechanical, Muzzy and some other high quality legendary fixed are more forgiving if you happen to hit them in blades. They don’t call those Trocar tips bonecrushers for nothing.

 

[sureshot006]

Think

Thinking with common sense seems to be lacking with how buddy. Society. basically!

I'm not sure I understand. It's not really a common sense thing as much as a physics thing.

 

[Ranger Ray]

I have shot Thunderheads since they came out (good upgrade from the original wasps), until I switched to Rage 6 years ago. The blood trail between the two, for the most part, has been night and day. Doesn't mean Thunderheads don't leave a great trail, but nothing like my mechanicals, period. Have never met a deer hunter yet that said, "sure be nice with less of a blood trail." LOL!

 

[anagranite]

QAD Exodus. Shaving sharp and very tough. I’m not sure why exactly, but every entry hole I get with these heads is a 1 1/4” x 1 1/4” square hole. Almost impossible for fat to plug up the hole.

I'll agree 100% on this statement. I went down the rabbit hole of youtube videos (about 20 of them) comparing fixed blade broadheads. The QAD exodus is always in the top 3, most of the time it's the winner.

I'm a firm believer of at least 3 blade broadheads for blood trails, it's harder to close up 3 slices than one gash from a 2 blade.

They also fly great.

 

[Joe Archer]

Here's why I like Spitfires...
Entrance from this years doe ...

Exit..

Overall solid, dependable performance.
<----<<<

 

[RicknWendy97]

News to me.
And a limited sample.

A deer can cover 80 yards fast. How many jumps? Where was any free blood at? Was blood at or up to entrance exit holes? Holes unobstructed?

Deer bled out mouth? Nose? How far was blood spray from lungs backtracked after deer was recovered?

Do test and polish blades. A dull or rough (and aren't most edges rough?) blade edge stutters along. Or what it drags against can stutter. You want to cut violin strings , not pluck them.
A tear or jagged cut you can hold together and stop bleeding easier than a super clean cut.
Hide punch and separation upon opening .... Shooting a hanging blanket with a field point equals a thump! and the blanket robbing the energy without a pass through. (Test that carefully with the right blanket!).
You want a razor edge involved in thumping that hide. You are stabbing. A cutting stab. Not just a puncture wound.

Razor edge your next broadhead. Not a wire edge. Not a terribly thinned out edge. But sharp.
Deer have been chased far beyond 80 yards with decent blood and never recovered.
Get your head to do it's job first (stab and cut) . Then ask for blood amount.
You need to cut a pump hose for much blood soon.
You choose lungs. (I have zero objection to your choice.)
Can you run 80 yards holding your breath? With a deer running that far double lunged how long for just leaking lung blood to reach the level of your broadheads holes?
Hide , fat, internal organs all can block a hole.
When a double lunged deer starts expelling blood from it's mouth you'll see it.
enough of them have delayed that that I expect little or no blood for a ways. And 80 yards to a running deer is not many seconds ticked away.

Sample another double lunged deer with a confirmed same style razor sharp head. Maybe it'll try breathing more than this one.
Congrats on this one!

Thanks. I know for a fact that my broadheads are very sharp. I follow a long process, that completes with honing on a piece of 3000 grit wet/dry sandpaper glued to a sheet of glass. Broadheads that sit for a season can oxidize, which is why all of the broadheads go thru this process at the start of the season.

 

[textox]

If OP examined the arrow and saw bright frothy blood or bubbles he would know that deer would not go far. And it is easy to miss a blood trail that has little blood from a high lung POI . 80 yards is a relatively short distance and unless his view was obstructed he might have seen it go down. The sharpest broad heads leave the best blood trails with the proper hit. I once trailed through snow, a Buck i shot with a 12 Ga.Breneke slug high lung ,that showed no blood for 75 yds then it looked like it was thrown from buckets for the next 20. Suggest Op reads recent thread on Sevr broad heads....

 

[Undertow]

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These fed a lot of people.

Found here in Michigan?

 

[Carpenter Bill]

Never had a issue with blood trails from a Rage, just destroys them. Shot the white throat patch on my buck last year, luv shooting the Rage. Jmo

 

[Bucman]

I'm not sure I understand. It's not really a common sense thing as much as a physics thing.

Common sense thinks things through like this. His statement made no sense.

 

[old graybeard]

Rage heads do leave blood trails

 

[stickman1978]

Shot placement is more important than broadhead.

 

[blue2in2001]

no lack of blood with double lung and a grim reaper mechanical

 

[Sasquatch Lives]

I am no expert but have hunted with a bow with fixed heads for 30 years and a crossbow with mechanicals for about 7 years and here's what I think. The crossbow bolts are lighter and shorter and don't carry as much weight and kinetic energy as the longer heavier arrows I shot. I got much better penetration and pass thru's with my heavier arrows from the bow at a lower poundage. I just feel the lighter bolts don't punch through as efficiently. I shot 3 blade Muzzy's for years and had incredible performance out of them.

 

[pauly68]

I’ve used Rage with my x bow since I got it. Used three blade Muzzys in my compound. One buck with the Rage left so much blood my dad asked if I hit it with an axe! It was impressive and disgusting at the same time!!

 

[RHRoss]

Never had a issue with blood trails from a Rage, just destroys them. Shot the white throat patch on my buck last year, luv shooting the Rage. Jmo

I have one Rage hypodermic that has killed 3 so far