[Avidhunter]

Just curious about peoples experiences with jump traps. What are the pros and cons ? Jody

 

[trout]

The pros used to be they were compact.
With the many new sets used today I think the conis and coil springs cover pretty much everything.
If you can get them at the right price and think you can use them .....go for it.

 

[Avidhunter]

Hey Trout, Kinda interested in knowing individual thoughts as far as success or failure. I notice they sell fairly cheap. What are their limits? Holding power? missed catches? Species specific?(say that 3 times real fast ) I understand no one makes them anymore? And was just curious about the reasons. Jody

 

[multibeard]

Being a beaver trapper from way back I have alot of #4 victor jumps that really did the job on beaver. They were lighter to carry and easier to bed than the long springs. Even to this day I would rather set a leghold for beaver than a coinnibear. I guess it is just the thrill of taking one the old way.

I never used jumps much for dry land trapping. I did uses 1s and 1 1/2s for muskrat but made sure it was a good drownding set as the traps are so lite they don't take a rat to the bottom very well.

 

[bogwalker]

Hey...I liked jumps a lot also.never could figure out why they quit making them.The small ones were pretty light but bigger was better to bed and conceal.

 

[Dave Lyons]

Well since I have never set one to catch an animal I can't say. But since I have set a few checking them out I would say a good jump #4 would be okay for beaver on slide wires but the smaller jumps I don't think have the power to hold an animal for 24hrs unless it is on a drowning cable.

Dave Lyons

 

[Avidhunter]

Thanks guys. Thats the kind of info I'm looking for. I don't own any but figured they must have or had a viable purpose. Maybe I'll pick up a few and mess around with them After all a guy can never have too many traps . My brother has a #4 that he said is actually faster than his mb750's. Was curious if this was the exception or the rule Weight is definately a good point. And holding power. Jody

 

[Dave Lyons]

Jody,

It may be faster then the 750 but does it have the holding POWER of a 750 I know of only one other beaver trap that holds as well as a 750 and that is CDR 7.5

Ask Mallard what he thought of the JAKE Trap before he used on. I know he LAUGHED at the trap because of its speed but I know he wasn't laughing when he seen it in action.

BTW a JAKE trap is the best of the best coyote and bobcat traps. At $32 a trap.


Dave

 

[Avidhunter]

Dave, I wouldn't think that they are even close to the 750 in holding power. But is it a practical trap or is there a high probability of loss? Sorry bout all the questions, but this is my first year trapping and trying to learn from others experiences.
But, I have to also ask What is a Jake trap, and do you know where I could get info. Next year I would like to get into trapping yotes. Jody

 

[Dave Lyons]

Here you go. First of all if you are at all trapping red fox I would not use this trap. The trap is for coyotes and cats only.

http://www.jcconner.com/

Dave

 

[Mallard]

Dave's right. When I saw the Jake trap at first it almost seemed to fire in slow motion, but the holding strength can't be denied. Very nice trap for yote's if trap theft isn't a concern. As far as jumps go I'm not a big fan of them. The smaller sizes are simply too light for what I'm trying to do, which is put the critter on bottom and keep them there. They also seem to create more misses, and whether this is due to the underspring flipping the animal's pad, or due to the pans being pinch pans (I'm not aware of any jumps with a tension screw) and not allowing you to control the firing weight. The only thing I know for a fact is I experienced far more misses and wring outs on smaller critters with the smaller jumps, and just plain old misses with the #4 jumps. Changing trap styles to a coil or a #4/5 DBLS with a Paws-I-Trip pan added solved this problem immediately and I never looked back. Maybe I didn't give them a fare shake, but for what it worth I'm not going back to try and solve the issue and my shed is officialy jump free. Funny thing is I have 1/2 a dozen #1 jump stop-losses being sent to me as we speak. I will not be setting these traps, but to trap collectors they are fun to look at, and they pay well for them. The traps Dave mentioned are fine coils, and many experienced beaver/otter trappers use them exclusively for foot holds. I like the #4 and #5 Double Long Springs, but that's just a matter of preferance in setting and not preformance. I can also say that 85% of my beaver / otter sets are with conibears, but I guess it just depends on what areas and conditions you trap.