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(To the Mods: I'm throwin' this topic onto this forum as it seems to apply to 'deer' here as much as anywhere; however, you guys are the sherpas so put where you think it will get some exposure but not rile the snakes too much. ps...if you do move it, please give me a "Moved To" icon as sorta advertising. mucho gracias).

Do we have an honesttogod checkable number on how big the bait business is (at retail)?

I've seen several numbers speculated on: One prolific poster suggested "$20 million". Another posted there was a "$50 million" number posted in some print media.

Yet another proclaimed that one of the governmental bodies (legislature? MDA? DNR? NRC?) had retained an MSU economist to hunt down a more definitive fix on the number.

Does anybody know a number or a process that you feel has some verifiability to it?
 

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To the extent that the larger estimates are used, it sort of undercuts the case for continuation of baiting. No matter what sort of extravagant assumptions one uses, if you assume that everyone complies with the legal limits, when you run the numbers, it's hard to come up with anything close to a ten million dollar market. IOW, the vast, vast majority of what's spent on baiting involves illegalities. IOOW, if the market is $50 million, but you can only come up with $5 million when you assume retail prices, two gallons, X number of average hunting days per hunter, X% of hunters practicing baiting, etc., you then can conclude that deer baiting is already a 90% criminal enterprise.
 

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The ATF raided the crack house down the street about two weeks ago. They're now selling deer bait :lol:

They're bringing it in by semi led by a black trans-am
 

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Evberyone seems to forget the incidentals.....minerals, buckjams, luckybuck, feeders, batteries for feeders, deer crack, deer cain, etc.
Plus the money spent on gas to take the stuff out.....the money spent on fuel and food and insurance to get the products to market.
The money spent to purchase and manufacture the bags it goes in, the money spent on labor for employees, or the money drained from the States coffers when said employees are laid-off, not paying taxes, and collecting unemployment.

But I digress.....
Here's my little slice of the pie.
For bait and all other related feed/bait items, my little store in my corner of the world sold over $120,000.00 worth of these items last year.
 

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When I seen the title of this thread I thought the DNR had found some more money:D
 

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700 billion, it's solely responsible for the collapes of our economy.
 

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I would like to know the amount also. I am not a fan of baiting but, i feel it is a to each his own type thing. I do feel for people who are losing thier jobs over this though.
 

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The $50 million dollar estimate came from an agricultural commodities specialist with the Mi. Dept. of Agriculture. It does not take into account the tangential economic impact from the baiting ban only the direct impact to growers. Estimates of bait use based on the average number of hunter days will always be a totally inaccurate method. It does not take into account the vast numbers of people who feed recreationally and also those hunters who baited steadily from Oct. 1st through Jan. 1st, despite only spending ten days or so of that period actually hunting.

No matter how you slice it and dice it, the baiting ban is causing a significant economic hardship to a lot of small business owners in this state and it's going to result in a tangible decrease in the number of deer harvested this year, which is simply going to create a greater risk for the transmission of CWD, if it is ever documented to be in the free ranging herd. When you weigh the cost-benefit factor of the bait ban in an unbiased manner, it certainly has the potential for doing more harm than good.
 

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Might go to show you those that say "I don't bait"...well.....maybe...:rolleyes:

I rarely baited last year except for maybe my son to sit over and have deer to keep him occupied in 1 or 2 stands...didn't bait when hunting, but did I go through the bait(and my dad who never hunted last 5 years)$$$ for our deer at home to watch and see, including turkeys, and partridge, squirrels, rabbits, and lots of nighttime critters. Dont; forget viewing baiters as well....most our neighbors did too, even if it was a cup or corn in the bird feeder(yes, two elderly neighbors religiously every morning and evening, one cup of whole corn!) I'll bet viewing in NLP makes up a good chunk of change...
 
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