Good advice from Buck pike. Fished Tuesday, Thursday and headed out here shortly. Put it this way, spud was with me all week. 4-5 inches in places but not any moire than that. Early snow made bad ice in places that got really bad when it warmed. You could read it still yesterday morning but now its all covered with snow. Good news is it got cold for a while before the snow came. Ice got crazy loud yesterday as temps fell from 33 to 19 while I was out. I been on duck a bit off the south shore and tried access yesterday and found some really bad less than one hit junk in places and went elsewhere. Good luck