[drwink]

I have aquired a English Setter that is FDSB registered and in going over it quite a number of dogs have CH in front of their names and I do not want to assume anything but I'll assume that that stands for champion ? After checking American Fields website I see 2 of these dogs are in the hall of fame but but are not designated on the pedigree as such just CH in front of their names.
Also their are numbers, not their registration #'s but look similar to social security numbers and would like to know what these mean.
Last but not least I have talked to several people when asking is they were registered with AKC or UKC and that brought somewhat of a negative response like "no wouldn't own an AKC dog" or "no these are real dogs"
I know AKC is mostly for show dogs but can anyone shed some light on this for me.
Thanks in advance

 

[part timer]

The "CH" designation I'm familiar with is the AKC Conformance champion. The dog needs to win, or place highly, at enough shows, with enough competitors to accumulate the points necessary for the "Champion" designation. A full description can be found on the AKC site. http://www.akc.org.

The AKC also has the hunt test designations: JH, SH, MH which is determined by compentency vs. a standard. The AKC hunt trial designations are FC and various derivatives.

I would guess that FDSB has some sort of field championship designations but I'm not familiar with the specifics. Others on this site are more knowledgeable about that.

Your question about the AKC registration is an interesting one. There doesn't appear to be any regulations against multiple registration for any of the bigger kennel clubs. However, as you have found out there are certainly some strongly held opinions out there. I do hear a fair amount of contempt for the AKC on this site and in other forums. I would guess that is because of the emphasis AKC puts on conformance competition without regard to hunting/herding/working competence. Being hunters we tend to look down on those dogs as less worthy. My personal opinion is that the AKC is a good organization and promotes dogs and dog ownership in general. If some of the "CH" pointers can't point it is a shame but not the end of the world. They are making someone happy.

 

[coverdog]

CH does stand for Champion. And in FDSB Champions are not made by accumulating points but actually beating other top dogs in a Championship trial.

As far as registration goes, AKC will allow a FDSB dog to be registered with them but FDSB will not allow dogs from other registrations to register with them to keep the breed "clean " from other registrations and keep the dogs to hopefully be bred for hunting dog abilities. FDSB does not breed for show or show standards as there are no FDSB dog shows. Hopefully this makes some sense as I tried to explain it.

 

[Worm Dunker]

Will try explain this with out starting another war.This is for F.D.S.B. I will use Ch. Stokly's Diablo Jake because all of my setters have him on a least one side of the breeding and I know his numbers as of 1996.

Ch. Stoakley Diablo Jake
14-77-473

14 is the number of trail placements in his career
77 is the number of winners he has produced
473 is the total wins of progeny
if the number have * infront of them it means the dog has been elected to the Field Trail Hall of Fame.

Some dogs are dual regestered ( A.K.C. and F.D.S.B.)(two of mine are) that way they run both trails and/or hunt test (A.K.C. only). The stud of my youngest dog was both placements in F.D.S.B and is an A.K.C. field trail Ch. which doesn't mean much.