Just got my new Stingray 8". Got it from Reeds online, 229 shipped. Love it, cuts way easier than my hand auger, although it does weight a little more It starts on the first pull 95-99% of the time when cold, 100% when it's even slightly warmed up. When cold, give it 4 pumps on the primer, fullchoke, she fires. I cut 70 holes in 2 days thru 8-14" of good ice, and never bogged down, didn't use a 1/4 of a tank, maybe a 1/3rd max. I went with the Stingray due to price and endurance out of a tank of fuel. If you're debating on it, like I was, I'm extremely happy. I cut alot of holes, especially when i got to Ohio, if it's half a tank I won't even bother filling it.