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Deer breeders welcome news that Kent County chronic wasting case was isolated
Posted by Howard Meyerson | The Grand Rapids Press September 04, 2008 08:00AM
Press File PhotoFall is prime time for deer farm owners who sell breeding bucks and does.

GRAND RAPIDS -- Test results on more than 50 deer killed and taken off a northern Kent County deer breeding farm last week all have come back negative for chronic wasting disease, Michigan Department of Agriculture officials said Wednesday.

That finding means only one deer, a 3-year-old doe, was found to be infected with the fatal neurological disease. Officials are waiting for test results on four other deer taken off two deer farms, in Osceola and Montcalm counties. Both were breeding facilities that received deer from the Kent County farm, which has not been identified.

"It's a relief that we don't have 40 that are positive," said Steve Halstead, the state veterinarian. "That (result) would suggest that anything that moved out of that herd would be positive."

Deer breeders also are relieved. A negative test means the MDA can start to selectively lift the quarantine imposed on 559 deer farms last week. The quarantine was put in place to stop deer from moving between facilities, possibly spreading the disease.

"This is very good news," said Alex Draper, president of the Michigan Deer and Elk Association, an organization of deer breeders. "I (had) sent an e-mail telling them that the panic level (among breeders) is going up by the hour."

Fall is prime time for deer farm owners who sell breeding bucks and does. The state quarantine prohibited any animals from coming to or leaving the farms, effectively halting their business.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture review of the captive deer trade in Michigan shows there are 26,000 privately owned deer. That herd is valued at $53.8 million, Halstead said.

Negative test results for CWD in the last four deer could mean some quarantines will be lifted starting next week. Agriculture officials are working up the details for how that would happen.

"More positive animals might drag things out," Halstead said. "But if not, we will begin selectively releasing the quarantine to get people back in business."

How just one deer got infected remains a question. Numerous theories are being investigated. Those include the possibility of fenceline contact with an outside deer, said Halstead, who thinks that is unlikely. No sign of the disease has so far show up in the wild whitetail population.

"Another possibility is illegal movement of deer with CWD from another state. We don't have evidence, but we are looking into that," Halstead said.

A rare but possible spontaneous occurrence also has not been ruled out. CWD belongs to a class of diseases called spongiform encephalopathies. Species specific forms of the disease are known to occur spontaneously.

"We know Creutzfeldt-Jakob occurs in one in a million people," Halstead said. "It just develops. And that's presumed to happen with Mad Cow Disease with cattle and Scrapie with sheep. We can make the assumption that it also occurs spontaneously in deer.

Another avenue of investigation, he said, is into deer breeders who do taxidermy. A CWD incident occurred in New York state three years ago after a deer breeder and rehabilitator was found to have a CWD-infected deer.

He was known to have raised his fawns in his taxidermy shop where he worked on a CWD-infected deer shot in another state. The skull and hide scrapings from the shop also were spread on the grounds.

"It was the only positive case in New York state," Halstead said.
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Deer breeders welcome news that Kent County chronic wasting case was isolated
Posted by Howard Meyerson | The Grand Rapids Press September 04, 2008 08:00AM


GRAND RAPIDS -- Test results on more than 50 deer killed and taken off a northern Kent County deer breeding farm last week all have come back negative for chronic wasting disease, Michigan Department of Agriculture officials said Wednesday.

That finding means only one deer, a 3-year-old doe, was found to be infected with the fatal neurological disease. Officials are waiting for test results on four other deer taken off two deer farms, in Osceola and Montcalm counties. Both were breeding facilities that received deer from the Kent County farm, which has not been identified.

"It's a relief that we don't have 40 that are positive," said Steve Halstead, the state veterinarian. "That (result) would suggest that anything that moved out of that herd would be positive."

Deer breeders also are relieved. A negative test means the MDA can start to selectively lift the quarantine imposed on 559 deer farms last week. The quarantine was put in place to stop deer from moving between facilities, possibly spreading the disease.

"This is very good news," said Alex Draper, president of the Michigan Deer and Elk Association, an organization of deer breeders. "I (had) sent an e-mail telling them that the panic level (among breeders) is going up by the hour."

Fall is prime time for deer farm owners who sell breeding bucks and does. The state quarantine prohibited any animals from coming to or leaving the farms, effectively halting their business.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture review of the captive deer trade in Michigan shows there are 26,000 privately owned deer. That herd is valued at $53.8 million, Halstead said.

Negative test results for CWD in the last four deer could mean some quarantines will be lifted starting next week. Agriculture officials are working up the details for how that would happen.

"More positive animals might drag things out," Halstead said. "But if not, we will begin selectively releasing the quarantine to get people back in business."

How just one deer got infected remains a question. Numerous theories are being investigated. Those include the possibility of fenceline contact with an outside deer, said Halstead, who thinks that is unlikely. No sign of the disease has so far show up in the wild whitetail population.

"Another possibility is illegal movement of deer with CWD from another state. We don't have evidence, but we are looking into that," Halstead said.

A rare but possible spontaneous occurrence also has not been ruled out. CWD belongs to a class of diseases called spongiform encephalopathies. Species specific forms of the disease are known to occur spontaneously.

"We know Creutzfeldt-Jakob occurs in one in a million people," Halstead said. "It just develops. And that's presumed to happen with Mad Cow Disease with cattle and Scrapie with sheep. We can make the assumption that it also occurs spontaneously in deer.

Another avenue of investigation, he said, is into deer breeders who do taxidermy. A CWD incident occurred in New York state three years ago after a deer breeder and rehabilitator was found to have a CWD-infected deer.

He was known to have raised his fawns in his taxidermy shop where he worked on a CWD-infected deer shot in another state. The skull and hide scrapings from the shop also were spread on the grounds.

"It was the only positive case in New York state," Halstead said.
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Deer breeders welcome news that Kent County chronic wasting case was isolated
Posted by Howard Meyerson | The Grand Rapids Press September 04, 2008 08:00AM

GRAND RAPIDS -- Test results on more than 50 deer killed and taken off a northern Kent County deer breeding farm last week all have come back negative for chronic wasting disease, Michigan Department of Agriculture officials said Wednesday.

That finding means only one deer, a 3-year-old doe, was found to be infected with the fatal neurological disease. Officials are waiting for test results on four other deer taken off two deer farms, in Osceola and Montcalm counties. Both were breeding facilities that received deer from the Kent County farm, which has not been identified.

"It's a relief that we don't have 40 that are positive," said Steve Halstead, the state veterinarian. "That (result) would suggest that anything that moved out of that herd would be positive."

Deer breeders also are relieved. A negative test means the MDA can start to selectively lift the quarantine imposed on 559 deer farms last week. The quarantine was put in place to stop deer from moving between facilities, possibly spreading the disease.

"This is very good news," said Alex Draper, president of the Michigan Deer and Elk Association, an organization of deer breeders. "I (had) sent an e-mail telling them that the panic level (among breeders) is going up by the hour."

Fall is prime time for deer farm owners who sell breeding bucks and does. The state quarantine prohibited any animals from coming to or leaving the farms, effectively halting their business.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture review of the captive deer trade in Michigan shows there are 26,000 privately owned deer. That herd is valued at $53.8 million, Halstead said.

Negative test results for CWD in the last four deer could mean some quarantines will be lifted starting next week. Agriculture officials are working up the details for how that would happen.

"More positive animals might drag things out," Halstead said. "But if not, we will begin selectively releasing the quarantine to get people back in business."

How just one deer got infected remains a question. Numerous theories are being investigated. Those include the possibility of fenceline contact with an outside deer, said Halstead, who thinks that is unlikely. No sign of the disease has so far show up in the wild whitetail population.

"Another possibility is illegal movement of deer with CWD from another state. We don't have evidence, but we are looking into that," Halstead said.

A rare but possible spontaneous occurrence also has not been ruled out. CWD belongs to a class of diseases called spongiform encephalopathies. Species specific forms of the disease are known to occur spontaneously.

"We know Creutzfeldt-Jakob occurs in one in a million people," Halstead said. "It just develops. And that's presumed to happen with Mad Cow Disease with cattle and Scrapie with sheep. We can make the assumption that it also occurs spontaneously in deer.

Another avenue of investigation, he said, is into deer breeders who do taxidermy. A CWD incident occurred in New York state three years ago after a deer breeder and rehabilitator was found to have a CWD-infected deer.

He was known to have raised his fawns in his taxidermy shop where he worked on a CWD-infected deer shot in another state. The skull and hide scrapings from the shop also were spread on the grounds.

"It was the only positive case in New York state," Halstead said.
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Thanks for the update. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
 

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EXCELLENT NEWS! hopefully they can get the deer tested in the hot zone and we will see some news on that soon!

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A TB positive deer was found in Shiawassee county last February, 6 MONTHS AGO. When will our DNR RELEASE TEST RESULTS ON (DEER/CATTLE) WITHIN A 10 MILE RADIUS OF WHERE THE DEER WAS SHOT. WAS THIS TB POSITIVE DEER AN "ISOLATED CASE" ??
 

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So, barring a find in Osceola and Montcalm, it's back to business as usual for the deer farms? Is that correct? If so, that's total BS in my opinion.

Granted, it's good news and now all hunters have had our wake up call to reduce herd numbers to avoid an outbreak wildfire. But we just returned the lighter to whom will likely start the fire all over again, the deer farms.
 

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I agree with pinefarm, what wait till there is another case and it does get into the wild deer then say we should have done more the first time, wow

I will be the first to say, if it does go back to business as usual for the deer ranches then we will ALL know it was just a scam to stop baiting
 

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Yes good point. I wish we had the answer. I had heard , for what it is worth that the DNR, were suspicious of the hunters story of where he got it. He think he shot it up north and brought it down with a tag from down here. Just here say. for what its worth
 

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This doesn't even makes sense...cwd is found and becasue all deer come back negative, they can resume the practice that got us in trouble in the first place...BUT the deer hunters and nature lovers from the Bridge to St. Joes and everyhwhere in-between get a harvesting tool/wildlife viewing feed/wildlife pile taken away from them!?!? Just goes to show you have ignorant our DNR is over the science with cwd....starting to think conspiracy here!!
 

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Hold yer horses here fellas. Not one mention was made about the DNR.

The article mention the MDA quote "A negative test means the MDA can start to selectively lift the quarantine imposed on 559 deer farms last week."

We haven't heard the DNR's side yet. I gotta hope they will hold the Ags feet to the fire on this one.
 

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All it proves to me is that the CWD response plan worked as intended. Did anyone ever have a fire drill as a kid? Once it was over everything went back to normal; are we headed in that direction or is this a wake up call?

Hopefully the DNR discovered some overlook items in their plan. The biggest thing that was lacking was information. They have a website there is no reason that we had to wait for the media to announce updates.
 

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Rumor has it that there will be no baiting for six months,but the deer farms can get back to making money breeding and selling deer. What about the people who sell deer feed to make a living. In my area a lot of the people could really use the extra cash.
I have talked with a lot of people in the past few days and I would have to say that 4out of 5 say they are still going to bait, and pinefarm you know the area that I'm talking about.
 

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Deer breeders welcome news that Kent County chronic wasting case was isolated

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Deer breeders welcome news that Kent County chronic wasting case was isolated

by Howard Meyerson | The Grand Rapids Press Thursday September 04, 2008, 8:00 AM

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i don't think isolated is the proper word, until all the deer are tested in all these game farms. lifting quarantines without all animals tested is a bad move in my opinion. ...TSS

P.S. plus, what about the game farm where the one CWD infected doe was found, how many years will that farm be quarantined, due to environmental contamination ???

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248177&page=2

TSS

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Most of the people that sell bait will continue to sell bait. It is only illegal to use it.
Most retailers here in Mason County has pulled any feed/mineral supplements off of their shelves in response to the baiting ban. That's including Miejers and WalMart.

Who would have thought that the big corporations would be responsible like that. Seriously...any responsible citizen would NOT sell bait knowing that it is illegal...I mean, lets compare...people that sell bait...are like drug dealers...except they don't get arrested.
 

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i don't think isolated is the proper word, until all the deer are tested in all these game farms. lifting quarantines without all animals tested is a bad move in my opinion. ...TSS

P.S. plus, what about the game farm where the one CWD infected doe was found, how many years will that farm be quarantined, due to environmental contamination ???

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248177&page=2

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Very good question.

Another question.

If the only reliable test is tissue from a dead deer. How do they know other deer are not infected?

Once this Prion is in the environment it is there to stay. I hope for that reason alone they do not act to soon.
 

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Very good question.

Another question.

If the only reliable test is tissue from a dead deer. How do they know other deer are not infected?

Once this Prion is in the environment it is there to stay. I hope for that reason alone they do not act to soon.
The Department of Agriculture killed all the deer at that breeding facility in order to test them. They killed 4 others a couple of other facilities that have been in contact with the contaminated doe.

That breeding facility will never be operational again for any type of cervids or even livestock. That one doe would have contaminated the soil with her droppings....and it's a very persistent mutated protein that is all but impossible to eradicate once it's in the soil.
 

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The Department of Agriculture killed all the deer at that breeding facility in order to test them. They killed 4 others a couple of other facilities that have been in contact with the contaminated doe.

That breeding facility will never be operational again for any type of cervids or even livestock. That one doe would have contaminated the soil with her droppings....and it's a very persistent mutated protein that is all but impossible to eradicate once it's in the soil.
Can they take soil samples to see if the ground is contaminated. One more question if the deer that had CWD was sick why did they kill all the other deer in the pin where they looking sick to.
Bob
 
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