Okay, I was starting to get pretty pissed off, but never lostr my cool in dealing with Wayne County. :dizzy: I was hung up on 3 times! I called the wayne county sheriffs office, they were great, called Dearborn Cop Shop, very pleasant and helpful, called the state police, again friendly and very helpful. The lady from the state police said they were all to framilar with the problems in Wayne county and with the person I told them I had been dealing with, so what does that tell you. Well after all this digging around on my own, several more calls to Wayne county clerks office with my findings and a threatened call to the State Attorney Generals, low and behold things happened fast. 8 Months to the day of turning my paper work in I finally got the permit