Spend the money and go to the Buck Poll in Marion, MI (check them out on the web)....Get the Pollington Red Dot scope and mount. If you go to the shop, they will spend all the time you need to get you set up and shooting correctly. I have one, that I got from one of the good members here, I'm very happy with it! I set it up myself, took some trial and error but once I got it set up correctly, I was very happy with it. I would not consider it for dedicated target shooting such as spots etc, but for a pure hunting site, it's ideal. if your the least bit interested, you atleast need to check them out and shoot them a bit.