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Asking farmers to leave 6 rows of corn$

2.7K views 42 replies 28 participants last post by  Clairebear  
#1 ·
Going to ask my farmer if he would leave a swath of corn near road, approx 600 yards, to create a screen for Fall. Anybody done this and how much did you pay him? Any info needed. Obvious up to him, but Id brushhog it say after Nov 15th opener.
 
#2 ·
May not apply in your case but the fellow renting our family farmland left several rows maybe 75 yards or so off the road. He did it on his own. Maybe a week or so into firearm season one of my cousins was coming up the road and there was a vehicle parked with a guy hardly outside with his rifle pointed at a dumb little fawn. Not mincing words my cousin asked him what the #%LL he was doing, and the excited "hunter" (Wisconsin plates on vehicle) informed him there was a deer out there. When asked why he was sighting his rifle at the house his response was "I didn't see any house". Hard to miss a white two story farmhouse and associated building sticking out over the top of frost killed corn, but he claimed he did. After that the farmer was asked to no longer leave any corn, and we planted several rows of trees just off the county road the following spring.
 
#3 ·
I know someone who asked their farmer. The farmer said no it wasn't in the lease agreement and he was farming their property as organic. He needed as much organic product as he could harvest.

Technically wouldn't be legal but I doubt anyone would question it unless a CO actually saw you bush hog corn during gun season. That wouldn't be grain left by normal farming practices
 
#5 ·
I've been able to get farmers to leave a bit here n there for either goose blind cover or deer bait/ food. 600 yards is a lot of corn.
Are you concerned that the deer will migrate to the strip of corn after the rest of the field has been cut or is that what you are hopin for?
 
#7 ·
Well you may ask cheap price . Just watched the ag report last weekend and there are over 2 million more acres of corn planted this year than last year and it’s a bumper crop so far. China has not put in any orders as of the weekend. Could spell trouble for the farmers if China waits for the crop from Brazil.
 
#16 ·
So does that mean the price of a 50 lb bag is going down this year.
 
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#11 ·
Instead of guesses, 6 row (assuming 20" rows) would be 10 ft. 10 x 1800ft = 18000sq. ft. or .41/acres. Average yield in Michigan is ~ 250 bushels/acre, so 102 bushels.... Current price around $3.85/bushel so ~ $400. $800 for 12 rows... I would assume if this was field edge, yield would be considerably less if near tree line. Also, yield rates obviously vary tremendously based on soil type/location.
 
#13 · (Edited)
My buddy runs a large dairy, he said it gets old... He looks at each case but said requests are ridiculous ...Its not the yield loss but also the input costs that are through the roof...

Meanwhile at his properties lol

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Deer camp guy has ground downstate, has an old boy still picks corn... He farms for free but can only remove after a certain date.

Most farmers will work with ya especially if u approach in the spring, agree on lease price with x left
 
#14 ·
Lady did this for a buddy and I without asking when we got permission to goose hunt a field. Made that morning really easy. But, I think it was too loud for her as we lost permission later that day and the corn was cut the next afternoon
 
#15 ·
According to AI. Quick math:
  • 600 yards = 1,800 ft.
  • 6 rows × 30” row spacing ≈ 15 ft wide.
  • Area = 1,800 ft × 15 ft = 27,000 sq ft = 0.619 acres (27,000 ÷ 43,560).
  • Michigan average corn yield ≈ 181 bu/acre.
  • That strip = 0.619 × 181 ≈ 112 bushels of corn.
  • Michigan/cash corn prices right now are roughly $3.50–$4.15 / bu depending on elevator and delivery; a commonly quoted mid number is about $3.80 / bu.
So at $3.80 / bu: 112 bu × $3.80 ≈ $426 (rounded).
 
#19 ·
We had about 20 rows by the road last year as the combine broke down - then it got too wet to pick..... Did not get cleared off till about March....

It really didn' t make a difference I could tell .. still got 5 deer - which is average for me...
 
#25 ·
It's a good idea very expensive these days...

A little off topic had a neighbor plant his 4 acres in corn He and his brother left the corn up picked some by hand and left quite a bit of it to keep the deer around!

Met a guy when we were buying some furniture at his house it was full of huge deer mounts. We hit it off immediately stayed for 2 hours He told me the story of how he would pay the farmer to tear out corn, he hung the old tree lounge tree stands on points and inside corners and he would pay the farmer and tear out small plots of corn on the edge of the woods as staging plots and he had a pair of mature antlers that he used for rattling He said he wouldn't sell to anyone for any price because he rattled in huge bucks and killed them.

Corn is a magnet with cover and when you get to hunt next to it the longer it stays up the better...


So yes it's a good idea and in comparison you didn't have to spend all the money on the food plot so it's probably worth it I know it's been here for the last 35 years!

Good luck the this Fall!

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#28 ·
Its for a screen affect...lots of people stop from road, the deer always jump back into woods, even 400-500 yds away. Some nights it gets annoying with vehicle viewers..lots of deer. Not a huge deal if farmer says yes or no, fully understand the farming way of life. Might be worth a try for $400+?! Thanks for the responses.
 
#29 ·
Hand picking the ears as mentioned earlier might fly.
If you do it for free.
Not picking risks the focus of attention being on the remaining ears. By the road. Defeating the purpose of a screen..

A leasing farmer at a friends tolerated ( per owner arrangement) my golf cat cutting it's width for a shooting lane for the owner.
(It cut it amazingly well too. )

You might need to knock it down post season to humor field prep.
I don't know the equipment's row cleaners or what is to be seeded in regards to corn stalk lengths left on the ground.
 
#35 ·
Corn is going to be low this year so far....theres alot of farmers that planted corn this year speculating a good price. I see low prices again this year. My crops this year look very good with maybe a little more rain than needed but better than not enough.
 
#41 ·
The corn crop in my neighborhood looks very good this year. We have had the moisture when needed and it has been hot. So most plants are big 2-eared with long well-filled cobs. When we cropped my fields for corn we regularly got 200+ bushels even in relatively dry summrs (it is a rich loam). We don't crop for corn anymore.

The comment about "F China" above, well, I dunno.

China has been a good customer for the American farmer for a very long time.
I have read in the farm tabloids that they are urgently sourcing their corn and soybeans away from America.
I hate to see that. Their purchases helped to stabilize prices at a higher level here in the States.

Now soybeans are much more than ever before being sourced by China from Brazil who produce more soys than any other country in the world.. Meaning, American farmers are experiencing their biggest customer go buy their beans from a producer who isn't subject to the 20% retaliatory tarrif China has put on American soybeans.

From the market observer --'World Grain.com':

"China historically has imported more than 60% of the world’s soybean supplies, with the United States once serving as its top source. Retaliatory tariffs now make US soybeans 20% more expensive than South American supplies, the ASA said, and China has turned to Brazil, which has expanded production to meet demand."


The economics are clear to all, even those vaguely aware of the footprint soybeans have in world feed and food supplies. Meaning, if American beans will cost a Chinese hog-raising operation $9.60 a bushel and Brazil's are $8.00 a bu......well, you get the picture.
 
#42 ·
Please, this is not an attempt to hijack 'beer & nuts' thread about standing corn for hunting purposes. Which has been an informative thread. Kudos to B&N for surfacing it.

It's just that I saw the sentiment that seemed to signal American farmers don't need China's market.
I demurred on that, and then added what I thought I knew.

So this morning, one of the very first newsfeeds I have in my que as I poured coffee is this one from Reuters. The timing was too on point to ignore......and not share. This article is 4hours old.

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"China boosts soybean buys from Argentina, Uruguay amid US trade war


"The rise in supply from the two Latin American producers will add to large imports from Brazil to China, dealing another blow to U.S. exporters as the world's biggest soybean importer reduces its dependence on U.S. farm products.

This year, China has not booked any U.S. soybean purchases for shipment in the fourth quarter, which is typically the key sales period for the United States as freshly harvested supplies reach the market.

The world's top two economies have imposed tit-for-tat import tariffs that have taken a toll on commerce, particularly agricultural goods such as soybeans."
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All that could be ominous if you put a lot of acreage in beans in May. Not only will prices be lower because demand will be lower but the crop looks like a strong one which could mean real challenges for storage. Some elevators may limit how much they'll buy to store. And on-farm storage may be limited due to the corn crop being harvested.

In short, I wouldn't wanna have my ground in soys this year.
 
#43 ·
I hunt mainly 2 farms where I am, same farmer and he farms 2000 acres. I’ve always asked him over the years to harvest the headlands (16) rows on the bush sides of the 2 farms. These are his sandiest farms and leaves them until last. I set up my burlap blinds in the last rows of corn and watch for the deer to come into or exit the corn.