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Munster, you stated:

"People need to understand that this is not an election where everybody gets to vote. They should also be aware that the sample that is used is not a randomly generated sample, it has an inherent bias built into it that favors those that are in favor of passing of antler restrictions. The DNR is aware of that fact, Brian Frawley acknowledged that there is an inherent bias in the sample due to the fact that members of the hunter sample are taken from individuals who have previously participated in the annual harvest survey."

For the life of me I can't see how the inherent bias Mr. Frawley acknowledges relates to your assertion [see underlined part of quote]. Can you enlighten us?
 

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Munster, based on all the MDNRE survey material published over the years, antlerless tag purchase is totally not a factor or consideration in selecting the hunter sample. Consequently, your assumption [that the hunter sample has an inherent bias built into it that favors those that are in favor of passing of antler restrictions] falls apart.

On the other hand, considering the land fragmentation here in Michigan and the inclusion of landowners with as little as 5 acres, it's not much of a mental stretch to assume that the landowner sample would be overly represented by small parcel owners more inclined to disagree with management changes such a APR's.
 

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Munster you're 100% wrong. Antlerless license purchase is absolutely not the determining factor in who is selected for the pool of potential participants in the APR hunter surveys. Please read and consider the following excerpt from the MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, Wildlife Division Report No. 3360, March 2002.

"The estimate of hunter support was also calculated using a simple random sampling design. A random sample of these hunters was obtained from lists of people that indicated they had hunted in Leelanau County during 1998-2000. These lists represented randomly selected people included in annual deer harvest surveys that were conducted by the Wildlife Division
(Frawley 1999, 2000, 2001)."

Similar wording is used regarding the hunter sample protocol for all the MDNRE APR survey reports to date.
 

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Munster, you're 100% wrong. I talked with Brian Frawley today and he said that [during the presentation you make reference to in your previous post] both he and Brent Rudolph clearly stated that antlerless license purchase is absolutely not a factor in who is selected for the pool of potential participants in the APR hunter surveys. He said that they explained that the antlerless tag purchase universe was not used because only half the hunters buy an antlerless license/tag. He went on to say that the hunter sample proctocol that is followed is set forth in the APR guidelines and is reiterated in the state's APR Survey and Evaluation Reports. [See Below]

Excerpt from the MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, Wildlife Division Report No. 3360, March 2002.

"The estimate of hunter support was also calculated using a simple random sampling design. A random sample of these hunters was obtained from lists of people that indicated they had hunted in Leelanau County during 1998-2000. These lists represented randomly selected people included in annual deer harvest surveys that were conducted by the Wildlife Division
(Frawley 1999, 2000, 2001)."
 
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