[onebad800]

all 3 of my boys use the blacks in their 450 rugers and all been great results lots of blood and most knocked over dead or ran less than 40yds. I borrowed one of the guns and shot a spike last week in the neck dropped right there and lot of blood as well.

 

[Bucman]

195 yd death run dbl lung, it happens. I ranged it cause I couldn't believe it myself.

 

[SEMichiiganConservation]

Stick with a Michigan company, try Bear Creek Ballistics. I shoot their .350 ammo, good stuff.

450 Bushmaster 240 Grain Ammo

240 grain ammo for the .450 Bushmaster. Available for bolt action rifles or AR platform or single shot CVA.

bearcreekballistics.com

 

[onlinebiker]

I'm calling BS on a deer traveling over 200 yds that has a hole in both lungs. I have yet to have one go more than 60 yds and that's using a bow, 450 (Hornady Black) or 20 gauge sabot.

I once got a 7 point on the way to.my old tree stand - with a 300 grain 50 caliber Hornady SST 12 gauge sabot.

It took off into our cornfield.

I easily tracked it - as it was like a slasher movie - blood everywhere.

The last 75 yards or so - it ran straight down a row of corn - knocking it down...

This guy ran well over 200 yards.

When I gutted him - the lungs were jelly, the upper half of the heart had about a 3/4 inch hole through it and the exit hole about an inch in diameter.

Blew my mind.

Only explaination - pure adrenaline.

 

[hunting with chuba]

i use the Black Box but remove the red ballistic out of them and they still are tack drivers out to 200 yards.
pinch the tip with small snips and remove = small hollow point works great

 

[mrlucky]

Bear Creek Ballistics. They fly flater than most ( 5"higher than hornady blacks at 100yds) and the bullet retention is second to none.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Michigan Sportsman mobile app

 

[onlinebiker]

Bear Creek Ballistics. They fly flater than most ( 5"higher than hornady blacks at 100yds) and the bullet retention is second to none.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Michigan Sportsman mobile app

Bullets do not fly.

They drop.

That rate is dependant on two factors - velocity and bullet coefficient (how quickly it slows down from atmospheric resistance).

 

[pgpn123]

Bear Creek Ballistics. They fly flater than most ( 5"higher than hornady blacks at 100yds) and the bullet retention is second to none.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Michigan Sportsman mobile app

x2, great results. They are pricey though.

Bullets do not fly.

They drop.

That rate is dependant on two factors - velocity and bullet coefficient (how quickly it slows down from atmospheric resistance).

Bear Creek drop rate is better than most. lol

2550 fps, 240 gr, high BC

 

[SEMichiiganConservation]

x2, great results. They are pricey though.



Bear Creek drop rate is better than most. lol

2550 fps, 240 gr, high BC

Pricy does not matter that much. How many do you intend to shoot in a deer season? 2-5 MAYBE? Practice with less expensive stuff once sited in. You can even do most of your range work with a .22 since the main purpose of range work is build muscle memory.

 

[RHRoss]

Pricy does not matter that much. How many do you intend to shoot in a deer season? 2-5 MAYBE? Practice with less expensive stuff once sited in. You can even do most of your range work with a .22 since the main purpose of range work is build muscle memory.

I have a couple Rifles I run 3000/4000 rounds through a year.

 

[SEMichiiganConservation]

I have a couple Rifles I run 3000/4000 rounds through a year.

All that builds the needed muscle memory. One can do that with inexpensive ammo, making the cost of better hunting ammo a non-factor.

 

[RHRoss]

All that builds the needed muscle memory. One can do that with inexpensive ammo, making the cost of better hunting ammo a non-factor.

I run a lot of reloads, but it is what is on cost, I can’t help but not shoot, it’s in my nature

 

[miruss]

I borrowed one of the guns and shot a spike last week in the neck dropped right there and lot of blood as well.

Yep so accurate that's only place we shoot them anymore for the last 3 yrs . I know of at least 15 deer shot this way and NONE took 1 step! Up to 5 this yr so far!

 

[SEMichiiganConservation]

I run a lot of reloads, but it is what is on cost, I can’t help but not shoot, it’s in my nature

Just trying to point out to those who consider the cost of their hunting ammo as a real factor. It does not have to be.

 

[TriggerDiscipline]

I don't like those ballistic polymer tip bullets for the exact reason you state. I don't shoot the .450 bushmaster, but these caught my interest:

Lehigh Defense Xtreme Defense Bullets 45 Cal (452 Diameter) 220 Grain

The Xtreme Defense (XD) Technology is based on the popular Xtreme Penetrator product line. The design goal was to achieve the same barrier performance...

www.midwayusa.com

Here's a guy who tested it in .45-70:

Here's loaded ammo:

450 Bushmaster 220gr. Xtreme Hunter Solid Monolithic Hunting & Self Defense Ammo

Underwood Ammo offers the most comprehensive and innovative Lehigh Defense™ Supersonic Lead Free Rifle Ammo for personal defense & hunting. Shop now .450 Bushmaster Copper ammo with Solid Monolithic.

underwoodammo.com

 

[BucksandDucks]

I'm calling BS on a deer traveling over 200 yds that has a hole in both lungs. I have yet to have one go more than 60 yds and that's using a bow, 450 (Hornady Black) or 20 gauge sabot.

They're tough critters. Once shot a buck with a 250 grain nosler partition out of a .338 Win Mag, hit the back of both shoulder blades and double lunged it. Deer ran over 200 yards. That was the only crazy distance that I can remember out of well over 100 deer but it can happen.

 

[onlinebiker]

I run a lot of reloads, but it is what is on cost, I can’t help but not shoot, it’s in my nature

I shoot ONLY reloads - except 22 and 12 ga...

I shot over 250 450BM this summer in the rifle I hunt with.

I only like surprises on my birthday.

 

[GuppyII]

250gn Fury over a little over 42gn of Lil Gun has been a hammer for some friends. I had loaded them up for my kid and an Ohio youth hunt, they took a few deer here and I was very impressed with the results vs the SSTs or the FTX bullets.

 

[pgpn123]

Pricy does not matter that much. How many do you intend to shoot in a deer season? 2-5 MAYBE? Practice with less expensive stuff once sited in. You can even do most of your range work with a .22 since the main purpose of range work is build muscle memory.

Fair enough. Just hope what I have lasts a long time.
Good idea to practice w less expensive rounds.

 

[SEMichiiganConservation]

Fair enough. Just hope what I have lasts a long time.
Good idea to practice w less expensive rounds.

I bought 80 rounds from Bear Creek when I changed to their ammo. It will last me the rest of my life.