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30.06 not allowed for hunting dear in lower mi?

28K views 71 replies 35 participants last post by  Protomud  
#1 ·
So was talking about buddy of mine about hunting and things related firearms. he informed me that you cannot hunt deer in Michigan with a 30-06 is this true? I believe he said something about you can't use a neck down cartridge in a rifle.

If so that's a huge bummer I thought 30 ought 6 was a champion of northern American game.
 
#8 ·
And do a little more homework, that restriction in zone 3 afaik is ONLY during the Nov. 15-30 firearm season. I watched Jimmy Gresinger shoot a deer in zone 3 with a 7 mag. during the late season private land antlerless season.
 
#10 ·
So many rules and regulations that makes your head explode. thanks guys for taking the time to point out where that information was located.

I'm going to go through the thing thoroughly and try to make sense of it before I even attempt to hunt.

It's not a huge deal I have multiple options available when it comes to taking deer. I do have a smooth bore cylinder choke shotgun that I could run slugs through.

I'm a complete newbie when it comes to hunting so I'm going to see if my buddy might want to take me out on my first run. In the meantime I'm going to get as much squirrel experience as I can. The regs on that seem much simpler.

Also looks like I'm going to hold off until next year want to be a hundred percent the last thing I want to do is do something stupid and risk a fine or worse my firearm being confiscated.
 
#26 ·
Of course Randy's will probably push the .450, they developed it. Definitely do your homework, it is if you have faith in a immediate drop. If you have to track with either one, you are in big trouble with no snow.
I got one of the 1st Ruger 450's and I have always had massive blood trails using the Hornady ammo. I have shot many deer with it at distances of 15 yds to 100 yds and I always aim for the lungs.
 
#27 ·
I use the .450 caliber also, they do not go far with a good Heart or Lung shot. I wonder about the .350 caliber and tracking. Defiantly is not as much blood as the old faithful 12 gage but then again I have had over one mile tracking them for other people with no recovery. I noticed on a 10 I got recently that was a heart shot had very little blood from the 20 yard hit till it dropped from a 180 yard shot.
 
#29 ·
Well, if you look closely, its not just the 350, but every caliber has stories of poor blood trails and lost deer. Same ole story with every broadhead known to mankind as well.

We're 4 for 4 with the 350, deer went anywhere from 20 yds to 70 yds, good blood, dead deer. It's all about shot placement, not caliber or ammo type. If you want the deer to drop dead with a poor shot, buy ammo with exploding tips

If you need specific examples of other calibers that have had poor results, I will elaborate on deer that have been lost with a 12 gauge slug gun, 450 bushmaster, and a 44 mag that I have first hand knowledge about

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#32 ·
Not sensitive, I'm just tired of the ignorance being spewed from people that seem to be better off on the water rather than in the woods.

There's a lot of "cases" that any caliber wouldn't get a pass thru. Quartering too, quartering away, head on, texas heart etc etc. Every shot is different. Different types of bullets are made for different types of results, again, regardless of caliber.

You want a pass thru, stick with hollow point. You want internal damage, go with polymer tipped. Different bullets react differently based on speed and shot distance.

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#38 ·
Not sensitive, I'm just tired of the ignorance being spewed from people that seem to be better off on the water rather than in the woods.

There's a lot of "cases" that any caliber wouldn't get a pass thru. Quartering too, quartering away, head on, texas heart etc etc. Every shot is different. Different types of bullets are made for different types of results, again, regardless of caliber.

You want a pass thru, stick with hollow point. You want internal damage, go with polymer tipped. Different bullets react differently based on speed and shot distance.

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The cavity behind a polymer tip , and bullet design will have much to do with performance.

One bullet style with a polymer tip may be to wring more accuracy out of a hollow point. (Well , a hollowpoint design) and can (depending on bullet design again ) control expansion in a better form.

A soft hollowpoint with unrestricted expansion or fragmentation , I'd not expect pass throughs on as much as a polymer tipped designed to mushroom partially , then retain mass going forward.

Hard to say without particular bullet design considered...
 
#34 ·
I've shot close to 20 deer now with my .350 and Winchester 180gr power points. Only had two that weren't pass thru's. One was a 70 yard neck shot that angled down and stopped in the spine, the other was around 90 yards quartering to that went through the onside shoulder and broke the opposite side rear femur.
 
#35 ·
Pretty common sense that a lower powered rifle is going to have less likelihood of passing through, breaking bones, etc when similar bullet and shot angles are considered.

That does NOT mean 350 isn't adequate. Its more than adequate within its recommended range. Gun buyers weigh the pros and cons before purchase. Not much to argue about except personal preference.