Yooper Alert! First Wild CWD Deer Found In Oneida County

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by Pinefarm2015, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. Cork Dust

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    I've killed deer over bait. If a bait ban is the State wide outcome of the CWD management plan, deer survival (buck) will go up significantly. All you need do is look at what happened in the wake of the massive snowfall in 2014. I think I still have my trail camera pic of the nice nine that walked down the shallow draw fifty yards from my stand at around 11:00AM on his way down to check-out a beaver flooding and stream course. I am still hunting him, since I could not even get anywhere near that stand because the access roads were snowed-in.

    I have never owned a UTV or an ATV, so I just adapted to another style of hunting that would minimize how many people could find where I was. I had two hunting partners that I met via XC ski racing that hunted the same way. We cut silver reflective tape strips into 1/4" wide pieces and fix them on ground cluter, so we can pick our way in via headlamp-very hard to see with the naked eye, particularly when most people don't look down. Much harder to hide your trail in snow though...
     
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    I always look for transition lines when scouting and hunting. I have had some good success sitting over scrapes in such areas. I wish I still had all of my old pics of over the years. They were lost when a ( supposedly) family friend said we could leave some of our stuff at her place during our move down state. Well evidently she wasn't that good of a friend. She had a yard sale and left the area, all of our family pics, fishing stuff, mounts, furniture. Sold or taken with her or pitched. To say I was mad would be a understatement. We will cross paths someday.
     
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    I have(had) friends like that, one walked-off with my sandhill crane decoys out in NoDaK. Apparently, possession IS 9/10s of the law.
     
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    Found it!

    I had him in my scope during 2017 blackpowder season, two days before the end, but my MK-85's bolt froze to the receiver (-9F). He and the doe he was with thought it was pretty "funny" to catch sight of the guy heating his bolt with a BIC butane lighter, I could hear them still blowing about an 8th of a mile away as the beat for the stream course...I don't remember whether I was swearing audibly...probably!
     
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    Your hunting methods are what I believe is truly hunting! In the lower we generally shoot deer or harvest them.
     
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    Lol, that would of been a site.
     
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    Never been one to sit and stare at a bait pile or one spot to long. About two hours and I am ready to move. Always have to see what's over the next ridge type of person. But age and health is definitely changing that lol. So I just have to slow down more, heck probably help me get more deer in the end.
     
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    I make the World's best "tag soup"! The secret is in the background spice sequence that I add.

    I had him whacking another buck around in the dark the third morning of this gun season. I could not find him, when they would stop, to save my life. The two had come in like a freight train through the frosty forest litter following another deer(doe) and stopped to have it out by a scrape that has been there four five years.

    He likes to bed on the ridge southeast of that scrape. He can see well-down the two skidder trails through the clear-cut that intersect at its base. He drops down this ridge into a beaver flowage fed by a stream. The banks are ultra-steep and heavily timbered, littered with blow-downs. Each spring I find more rubs in here. Now I think I know the two spots he prefers to hide in after the shooting starts. Some day I will get lucky; and then regret that "luck"...
     
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    I hear you, I love the chase but then there is an empty spot so to speak.
     
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    Actually, I stated that a bait ban Statewide as part of the CWD management plan, would be a good thing to improve buck frequency and age in Zone 1. I stated that wolves, will actually do their job in an ecosystem, kill sickly, old, sub-par deer. I stated that wolf abundance was highest where deer densities were highest on both sides of the border, but in Wisconsin, wolf density and road density vary inversely. Likely why the CWD deer popped-up in a "wild population" on the outskirts of Rhinelander-can you infer that "recreational viewing" has adverse implications in a CWD incidence area?
    I can!

    I disagree with the rationale of putting a ton of money into surveillance and monitoring of southbound deer at the Straits, as advocated by the OP, as well as having to break deer down prior southbound transit when CWD has not been detected in the UP, but does already exist at multiple sites below the Bridge-not very cost effective use of limited monitoring funds. If this is included in a CWD management plan, I am adverse, since it will serve to limit hunter annual deer kill in Zone 1 further, much of which is directed at yearling bucks.

    The OP was actually just making repeated attempts to get under LivetohuntUP's "skin" with the stats. he posted on low hunter numbers and CWD incidence in Wisconsin.

    Guilty as charged;I attempted to put an end to that silliness...
     
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    The remainder of thread drift was largely a show-and-tell of a non-baiting approach to deer hunting that eliminates large blocks of unproductive cover to focus on more productive mini-cover blocks in Big woods country. Jeff Sturgis (North Jeff) covers this far better than I did. He's perfected this, I just stumbled on it. He illustrated the how with a beautiful buck taken in habitat that actually holds very few deer southeast of Munising.

    Once upon a time, I had a B&C buck stop twenty feet from the front bumper of my company owned car. I could've accelerated and killed him easily, but couldn't bring myself to do anything other than honk the horn until he got his butt across the pavement and back on the track of the does that crossed before him...or, why I slowed down. He looked like he was wearing a giant Menorah on his head. As I pulled away to finish the trip over to Houghton to meet a hospital specialist that was going to take over that segment of my coverage responsibility, I remembered a side road that cut that small tower line he was following the does down, pulled off and jumped out of the car to run down the brush cut in dress shoes, suit, and wool overcoat through 10-12" of snow. He walked across about fifty yards away-just a chunk of a deer! I never could find any sign of him anywhere near that spot.

    There are some beautiful deer that opt to live in some beautiful country in this state. But, contrary to the OP's contention, I still don't think the UP faces the current level of risk from CWD spread as the remainder of the State. With monitoring funds finite, and limited, I would still focus on the deer movement study's outcome(s) on the Wisconsin border counties, and asking the northbound Bridge traffic to answer one question: Are you transporting venison into the U.P.? If, yes, then would you please stop over here for inspection of that venison's state and status?

    Take care!
     
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