Yooper Alert! First Wild CWD Deer Found In Oneida County

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  1. Pinefarm2015

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    Bad news for the Western UP. MDNR will have to ramp up testing and perhaps consider enacting a bait ban in Gogebic and Iron counties, given how far deer travel to yard up.

    http://wxpr.org/post/first-wild-cwd-deer-found-oneida-county#stream/0

    The DNR has confirmed that a wild deer has tested positive for chronic wasting disease in Oneida County, in the town of Crescent.

    As required by law, this finding renews Oneida County's existing baiting and feeding ban for another three years. Additionally, this positive will renew the two-year baiting and feeding ban in Langlade County.

    The CWD-positive one-year-old doe was harvested on a disease surveillance permit issued within a 10-mile radius of the recent Lincoln County positive detection. This is Oneida County's first CWD-positive wild deer. The DNR's Eric Lobner says Oneida County detection is a direct result of our surveillance efforts put in place in response to the Lincoln county CWD positive.
     
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    The line in Vegas just changed, for betting on any new baiting rules being statewide, as opposed to just applying to the LP.
     
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    Good luck enforcing that. While it sucks, we knew it was coming ( CWD).
     
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  5. Cork Dust

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    Crescent Twsp., is southwest of Rhinelander, Wisconsin. No closer(actually farther away) than the other two previous CWD positives in captive cervids, which were inside 35miles from the Michigan border.

    Thanks for the enhanced drama! It oddly seems you are rooting for this to happen?
     
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    Despite the Winter, they should also consider allowing antlerless harvest in archery season, with the combo tag, and getting rid of that silly ban on crossbows in December.

    They might want to consider a prohibition of any whole deer carcasses coming across the bridge, north or south. Deboned meat only.
     
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    cwdaffected_0.jpg for edification and reference.
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    Wolf densities are highest in northwestern Wisconsin, remember, wolves dispersed into Michigan from Wisconin. Dispersal is pack density dependant. Now, let's overlay a wolf density distribution map on top of this. Where is a GIS tech. when you really need one?

    https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Wildlifehabitat/wolf/documents/2017_Wolf_Detections.pdf

    Rhinelander is in that open gap between the two blue dots that indicate newly formed packs. This is MTU researcher data from southern Houghton, western Baraga, easter Ontonagon counties. MTU research determined that smaller wolf packs kill at higher frequencies due to their higher prey volume losses to scavengers...
     
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    This is an old 2009 map of deer density, trends are still valid. Crescent Twsp, southwest of Rhinelander, Wi. is south-southwest of that western edge of 20deer/per sq. mile.


    Of course, other than a map of wolf dog predation incidents...nothing on pack distribution:

    Wolves have been found in every county of the UP, but some years they have been absent from
    Keweenaw County (excluding Isle Royale) during the population surveys. Wolf density has
    been higher in the western UP (approximately 13-15 wolves/1000 km2 in 2014) than in the
    eastern UP (approximately 10-11 wolves/1000 km2 in 2014). Wolves may not be able to
    establish year-round territories in the deep-snow areas of the northern UP because of low deer
    densities during the winter (Potvin et al. 2005).
     
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  10. Pinefarm2015

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    It felt like some UP hunters believed that CWD was more of a LP problem, because of the higher density in the LP. Whenever there was discussions about rule changes, it seemed some UP hunters wanted the UP to be exempt.

    I hope this unfortunate news serves as a wake up call that we’re all in this, together. From listening to some folks before the CWD meeting the other night, there’s still a lot of guys that don’t believe CWD is a threat and that it’s been here forever.

    There appears to still be a lot of guys that believe we need to cut antlerless tags to grow the herd, go to a OBR-APR tag and leave baiting rules just as they are. Some are still obliviously tone deaf to what’s going on, because they don’t think they have a stake in what’s going on, as if because they don’t hunt in Kent or Montcalm, that it’s not their problem.

    I’ve advocated for statewide rules on most everything, for continuity and simplicity, although I would not block staggered opening days, like duck seasons employ. The duck migration is a kin to the weather/rut timing. Houghton and Hillsdale having the same season dates is 1940’s thinking.

    If we are to have a bait ban, it has always needed to be statewide, if it was to have any success. The same holds true if we allow shelled corn only. It has to be statewide. We can’t allow beets and carrots in one peninsula, but not the other.

    Do you think UP hunters will violate baiting rules at a higher rate than LP hunters?
     
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    My guess would be yes, more remote land and fewer DNR. Plus alot of guys up there don't care about what comes out of Lansing. Not that the lower guy's are much better. Most old time yoopers are very set on there ways. On one hand I kinda respect that.
     
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    Thanks for posting.
     
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    Suddenly I don't hate wolves as much.
     
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    I have always said they should ban north bound carcasses, and I would be ok with Doe permits in the southern county's of the Yoop. After we see what this winter will bring. As for xbows why not bring the same rules to the Yoop. Even though ,I don't care for them. Very few guys bowhunt in the Western part of the Yoop anyways.
     
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