Trout Bead hook replacements

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  1. Clum

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    Ive been a huge fan of the trout bead brand of hooks, however their inflation rate is out of control. I switched over to Raven specialists (turned up eye) and Im not digging them at all. Im ordering up some Raven Specimens straight shank (my preference) to give those a go. They look a bit thicker gauge, maybe a good trout bead hook replacement?
     
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  2. Bob Hunter

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    I’ve personally never liked the trout bead hooks, they are such a big diameter that it’s hard for me to drive the hook home. 90 percent of the time I use a Eagle Claw style L2 in a size 8 or 6, or the Raven Specimen Wide Gape.
     
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  3. Clum

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    Why do you think that? I feel like I had a better hook up ratio with the trout bead hooks then any other hook Ive tried. Are you using straight shanks and do you snell or tie a knot?
     
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    The eagle claws are a straight eye and I don’t snell them, I like the thin wire hooks better because they penetrate good for me, the ravens are also a straight eye which I like, I don’t snell those either. I also like a light hook because it doesn’t weigh the bead down as much and lets it act more natural during the drift.
     
  5. slightofhand

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    I am a fan of thicker guage also, thin wire bends out and I have lost a lot of fish that way. Whichever you decide to go with, make sure it is a stamped forged hook. When you look at the hook from each side starting at the bend and going up towards the point, the wire will be flat in appearance. That increases the plane of strength of the hook and prevents bending to either side. Good Japanese hooks all have that in thicker guage I noticed.
     
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    I’ve had good luck with Raven Specimen and Bloodrun Tailouts alike in #6.

    I use either #6 Raven Specialist or a #4 BR Skeena for roe. I did have a Raven Specialist bust just as my buddy netted a fish last Thursday. At first I thought the hook popped out. I went to put a new roe bag on and it was gone from a little below the barb....


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    I use snelled #8 Eagle Claw octopus hooks, no problems here.
     
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    Had a buddy pick up the wrong hooks at jays a few weeks back when telling him to pick up some for a weekend outing, guess i wasn't that specific but he grabbed daiichi scud hooks size 10, honestly didn't think they were going to work all that well being they're a fly hook but haven't lost a fish on them yet so I'm kinda impressed? Opinions? I know it sounds weird but it might even be the way I hook the bag with them? Haven't hooked a fish on a bead with them yet though so that's to be seen...
     
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    Heavy wire scud hooks are super strong and have landed a ton of fish. The down-eye might not be ideal for beads. Another Daiichi hook that works great is the 4250 single egg hook sizes 4 through 10. I've even landed Steelhead on size 12 and 14 with an extended body caddis fly. They might be small but they're awesome.
     
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    What feature make a good bead hook? I've been using Gamakatsu #6 octopi.
     
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    Those should work. As long as it's a short shank, not flimsy wire and the point is sharp, you should be good.
     
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    Ive been using those in size 6 and 8 for several years for bottom bouncing spawn bags, great little hook!
     
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    I like a slightly offset bend with a straight eye. Ideally, the bead you are using should fit inside the gap of the hook for sizing purposes. Bigger bead,bigger gap. It will help out with landing ratios.
     
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    I prefer a up eye hook for snelling but do use a straight eye on occasion. I think you are spot on about the hook/bead size, saw comments on this several years ago and since have pretty much followed that rule of thumb so to speak. I even use size 12 for 6mm beads when I run out of 10's, and it works just fine.
     
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