Trail cameras, Ring doorbells, ethics....

Discussion in 'Michigan Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by Sam22, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. jiggin is livin

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    I know my cousin had more than one occasion hunting a stand that was on the opposite side of a travel route where he was saved from being busted by deer sneaking through because he got a picture of deer moving his direction from another stand that had a cell camera by it.

    He said he was kind of neat, but seemed kinda like cheating.

    There is a little delay, but it still would give you a heads up in instances like that or like what Steve is saying where you know ahead of time that they are in that area.
     
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  2. sullyxlh

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    If it gets a MI hunter their buck I believe most would lol
     

  3. buggs

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    We got one as a gift from our daughters for Christmas, and your right - these doorbell cams have great 180 degree resolution and can be set up for different distances. When the mailman drops off a package there is a short delay, but we always get notification on our cell phones. If I still had our property up north I would not hesitate to use one if for no other reason than to deal with all the trespasser's we were encountering, especially as we all got older. Technology these days has made being a thief/poacher a substantially more risky occupation. As far as using it for hunting, I also see it as not being much different than using a trail cam, unless your watching TV in the living room while simultaneously "hunting" out of your back porch.
     
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  4. Woodstock

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    Especially useful for "Mulligan Bucks"
     
  5. timj

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    Lol
     
  6. HomeTownJB

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    I think part of the problem is how the data transfers. Home security cams use WiFi where data transfer is easier and less expensive using your home internet connection. For a trail cam to have live video it would have to cast the data using the cell carriers network like 4G or LTE and that gets expensive quickly. I'm not an expert by any means but I think that's the issue. The cell cams that offer the option of transferring photos or video upon capture are as live as you can get and that's pretty good. P&Y has a statement on the use of cell cams:

    "Cellular Trail Cameras / Technology

    The Pope and Young Club, historically, has not viewed the use of trail cameras as a violation of the Rules of Fair Chase.

    With the invention of wireless trail cameras, as well as other devices that can send real time data to a hunter, all hunters need to consider how the use of these devices may affect fair chase. While the use of a wireless trail camera is not automatically a violation of the Rules of Fair Chase, using this technology to deliver real time location data of the animal being hunted would be a violation of rule #7 of our Rules of Fair Chase.

    For clarification, if you receive a wireless image (photo, video, GPS coordinate, etc.) and it elicits an immediate ( real time) response that guides the hunter to the animal, it would be considered a violation of the Rules of Fair Chase and prohibit that animal from being eligible for entry into the Pope and Young Club's Records Program. Fair Chase is defined as the ethical, sportsmanlike and lawful pursuit of free-ranging wild game animals in a manner which does not give the hunter an improper or unfair advantage over the animal."



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  7. bowhunter_22

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    I don’t have the link as my buddy sent me a screenshot but this was what Boone and Crockett had to say
     

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    Oh, snap!

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  9. Holy smokes...was just walking through Tractor Supply and they have a live stream cam there for sale. Wild Game Innivations Insite Cell. Package reads just like we are discussing, legit live feed. Coming to a food plot near you!

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  10. sniper

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    Lee and Tiffany Lakoskey have had live feed cams 24/7 quite some time ago. I can remember watching it on line. I don’t believe they ever hunted from those cams because of some laws.


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    I ordered one of these, with a live feed camera I don't even need to leave the house
     
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    B&C may not recognize them but this buck photo recognition technology will.
    https://deerlab.com/hunting-software
     
  13. on a call

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    I guess hunting has gone to another level....Here I thought it was unfair to use two way radios to cumunicate that a deer is moving towards my buddy.
     
  14. November Sunrise

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    If a good buck is headed to a friend why in the world would you alert them via text or radio? That would be a pretty obvious fair chase violation. Doubtful that he would even feel good about tagging that buck under those circumstances.

    Instead launch an interceptor drone so as to disrupt the deer's travels and reroute its path so that it can live another day. Think about it - you ain't gonna kill that deer if your buddy shoots it, now are ya?

    It's all about having a plan in place BEFORE going afield. Failing to plan is the same as planning to fail.
     
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    Reminds me of two friends of mine.
    A nice buck was walking a cut corn field edge, head towards Friend #1. He saw it and was ready.
    Now...friend #2 was across the field 150 yards when the buck was dead across he shot and killed it.
    Friend #1 was.....not happy and told # 2 about it...friend #2 said...I had a good shot and took it... should he have not ?? :)
    It happens\
    I agree, drones for me this year !!!
     
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