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The Census and the Question of Citizenship

Discussion in 'Political Discussions (FreeMichigan.com)' started by rockandtroll, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:20 PM.

  1. brewster

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    Because, you have nothing that holds up, right?
     
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  2. Northernfisher

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    Just because you read it on the internet does not make it true. Try reading this and get back with me:

    "But there is no basis for saying that the United States is somehow “not a democracy, but a republic.” “Democracy” and “republic” aren’t just words that a speaker can arbitrarily define to mean something (e.g., defining democracy as “a form of government in which all laws are made directly by the people”). They are terms that have been given meaning by English speakers more broadly. And both today and in the Framing era, “democracy” has been generally understood to include representative democracy as well as direct democracy." # 1

    That is just the final paragraph. You really owe it to yourself to read the entire article.


    # 1 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...public-or-a-democracy/?utm_term=.0a517eb358e3
     
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  3. Northernfisher

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    No it has to due with the statements that some of you are making.
     
  4. brewster

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    Do you really think that you vote directly for the president of the US?

    Why can't you answer the question that goes directly to the OP?
    Is there a clause stating that there can not be categories of people counted that are inhabitants?
     
  5. Northernfisher

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    1. No I do not

    2. I choose not to - thank you.

    3. I will wait for the court ruling.
     
  6. brewster

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    So you really don't think or have opinions/ideas that you can discuss? Are you waiting for Pescadaro to tell you what to think? Sorry that you choose to not think or reply or yourself. Surf some liberal sites, they will tell you what to think and say.
     
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  7. Northernfisher

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    I did not attack you and would appreciate the same consideration in return. Thank you,

    ps Saying someone's idea is poppycock is not attacking them, it is issuing an opinion on their ideas. There is a difference.
     
  8. RonSwanson

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    Let's give states the right to choose. Texas wants to ask it, let them. California doesn't, let them . Obviously there is no malicious motives to ading this question so it shouldn't matter....
     
  9. david boyko

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    isn't the census supposed to be a head count and there is nothing wrong with asking if you are a US citizen even though those that aren't are probably going to lie anyway
     
  10. garyrodbender

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    NF I was responding to and only to your comment on electing a President...Nothing about census , just to be clear.

    Something for you , in simple English ;)
    How about Constitutional Republic ? Is that poppycock as well ?


    Again for electing our President/Vice President...
     
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  11. pescadero

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    Inhabitants, from the very first US census of 1790, have been based on the concept of "usual residence" as defined in the Census Act of 1790.

    This includes citizens, non-citizen legal residents, non-citizen long-term visitors, and illegal immigrants.

    "...Be it enacted, That every person whose usual place of abode shall be in any family on the aforesaid first Monday in August next, shall be returned as of such family; and the name of every person, who shall be an inhabitant of any district, but without a settled place of residence, shall be inserted in the column of the aforesaid schedule, which is allotted for the heads of families, in that division where he or she shall be on the first Monday in August next, and every person occasionally absent at the time of the enumeration, as belonging to that place in which he usually resides in the United States."

    From instructions to Census Marshals in 1850:

    "By place of abode is meant the house or usual lodging place of a person."
     
  12. pescadero

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    False.

    The law says you have to be a citizen to VOTE for your representation.
     
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    Like I asked before; Is there a clause stating that there can not be categories of people counted that are inhabitants?