i looked to see if any others had started one and didnt see on so if there is one i missed feel free to use that one and delete this one.. i am timberdoodle2- Larry, i have speared for over 40 yrs when there was ice mostly all in sw michigan. gun lake area. but have got a spot in the U.P lined up when the ice gets here so i can. if there is good ice down here i have way more than 10 plus sits but the ice needs to get here.. have hub will travel, first year in a hub usually use permanent. looking forward the comaradry here and would like to fish others if chance opens up. and will return the same for others.