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Discussion in 'Upland Game hunting, Dogs and dog training' started by Guy63, Mar 11, 2018.
I’ll wait until the late season though so I don’t mess up my bow hunting.
I am curious as to why you are not hunting them on your property in the Thumb. It is my understanding that you cannot stockpile them and removing some roosters from the fall population is supposed to be beneficial to the overall population.
I have hunted pheasants in MI since the mid-1970's. This past season was one of the best that I can remember. I hunted strictly public land and the hunting that I experienced was better than any grouse season that I have had in MI both in terms of number of flushes and birds taken over my dog.
Maybe I’ll give it a shot this year. The most I’ve ever saw at one time was 4 rosters and 2 hens. I’ve had the property 5 years I was hoping maybe the population would grow and get to 10 birds in a sighting before I would take a couple? I don’t know what’s realistic though.
Sounds like a good late season spot
You could have been harvesting birds from the beginning and had no affect on the population. They don't have longevity on there side.And rooster's will protect a food source when needed and starve hens.In north Dakota my friend Jim said he would supplement the birds if needed and that the rooster's would spur the hens and drive them off.So he started having big shoots from Thanksgiving to Christmas to kill of the rooster's. He does this religiously and said the numbers keep climbing on his farm.He also mentioned that his fields out in areas that get wintered in don't do well because you can't hunt in the deep snow or drive in it to get to them due to drift's. He then is stuck having Hunter's hunting only the farm in which numbers go up and the unhunted fields do not.?Too many rooster's hurts his operation he stated
There is a pretty healthy population of pheasants around me.
One of my neighbors puts out feed (chicken scratch?) all winter long and its not unusual to see 12-16 birds feeding at once.
I remember those days growing up in the late seventies waiting for the 20th to come and stay home from school, was a big thing.
My dad would take us to a few fields where we would ask the farmer if we could hunt his fields and sometimes would get to ride the combine with a bunch of us standing at the end of the field, most times didn't even need a dog.
Your spot on when saying was bigger than deer hunting, and remember going for lunch somewhere and the restaurant was full of hunters. Great memories ...
Have a few spots here around Bay City, even travel to the Thumb, but you just don't see as many birds anymore.
People would be suprised how many baby chicks that feral cats and even mittens the pet kitty kill every year when they go on the prowl day or night. That has something to do with it also.
I, too, miss those days when pheasant hunting was a big deal. Unfortunately we're in the midst of a perfect storm:
1. Modern ag practices,
2. Low fur prices,
3. Urban sprawl,
4. Unchecked predation (cats, hawks, coyotes, etc),
6. And on and on.
I continue to pursue wild ringnecks as they are my passion but I see no end in sight to the odds stacked against them. Savor the wild Michigan roosters you bag, they are true trophies and survival specialists.
I read an article a while back where a guy in the suburbs would take his dogs down to some of the abandoned manufacturing plants near city airport and his dog would point 20-30 birds in 1.5 hours.
I would just add to #4 on your list, all the nest raiders that are overpopulated these days like raccoon and skunks.
It can help controlling predation.But that isn't the real issue.Habitat is the issue.Detroit has racoon's,skunks,possums,foxes,coyotes,cats,dogs,and avians, not to mention the rat population. A hen lays twelve eggs as it evolved to balance out survival rates to survive.What Detroit has is habitat and no spraying.The western pheasant states
Definitely agree. When I was kid we had pheasants in our yard many times, right in town. I still live in the same area (SLP) but the farm ground looks nothing like it did back then. The fence rows for the most part are gone. Any that remain will be gone soon in favor of irrigation pivots. Fallow fields are few and far between also.
30 years ago my aunt built on Breton and Burton just behind Calvin College in GR and there were pheasants all over her subdivision up until it was filled with houses, then they petered out. Nothing to see a dozen under her bird feeders.
I used to call on JNAP off Jefferson in Detroit. Slum, factories, then gated communities with mansions in them. Behind the gates, pheasants in the landscaping.