Pennsylvania CWD Results are in

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by motdean, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. miruss

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    Dang don't you now anything!! It doesn't happen in fields only off spread out food from bait spinners! :dizzy:
     
  2. Nostromo

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    Well, we haven't learned that yet. ;)

    But whether it's something new that just developed or something that's been around since the (pick your epoch here). Either way the dialog here alone should convince you it's something worth learning about. Especially when you admit we as a group tend to have an exaggerated opinion of the value of wildlife. True, hunting is getting more complicated for us. Also, the way people hunt has evolved to some interesting extremes which incorporate not a small degree of farming and ecosystem manipulation. We want our land to be a certain way or we want our forest managed in a certain way. You add to this a disease which we don't have a handle or a clear idea of it's implications and as thinkers we have questions.
     
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  3. motdean

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    What I would really like to see is year round hunting/shooting/sampling in the areas that require it to get to the herd population goals for the diseased areas....

    They have disease year round, so removing them and testing them year round should be a priority.
     
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  4. jr28schalm

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    They cant even pick road kills up, good luck
     
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    Seems like road kill would be much cheaper than hiring sharp shooters but i guess they don't like getting their hands dirty .
     
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  7. Justsayin

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    https://www.citizensvoice.com/sport...lic-to-join-pgc-plan-to-contain-cwd-1.2499646

    Just a few snippets... interesting, PA considering removal of APR's in disease areas, increased hunter harvest, post season sharpshooters but not planning to increase anterless permits.
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    6-23-19
    A call to arms has been issued by the Pennsylvania Game Commission against the spread of chronic wasting disease in the state’s deer herd.

    “If we are to control this always-fatal brain disease in deer, the Pennsylvania Game Commission needs the support of hunters to contain this problem,” PGC executive director Bryan Burhans
    During the next 12 to 14 months the PGC will be presenting its blueprint for dealing with containing CWD and accepting public input before releasing its response plan.

    Possible items that could be included in that plan are removing antler restrictions for buck in disease management areas, increasing speed and efficiency of deer testing, increased hunter harvest and targeted removal of deer.

    There are no plans at this time for increasing the number of antlerless permits in DMAs, but may increase the number of Deer Management Assistance Permits made available.
     
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  8. Liver and Onions

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    I think if you look at the testing results(DNR site) of road kills or deer found dead in the last 4+ years since the 1st free ranging CWD deer was found, you might say why bother to check deer from those 2 sources. If someone wants to take in a head for testing for the disease zone, sure but it's not worth the manpower and mess to collect heads laying next to the road for who knows how long.

    L & O
     
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  9. motdean

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    Thanks for posting.

    12 to 14 months? I would hope that they would look to other states to see what has worked and what hasn't.

    Seems to me that Illinois has been accepted by some as a success, even if not by certain folks on MSF.

    "Illinois, however, has been using hunting and postseason culling as a solution, and it has stabilized the growth of CWD at approximately 2% statewide.

    Conversely, Wisconsin, which abandoned culling because of public pressure, and West Virginia, which has relied exclusively on hunter harvest for CWD management, has seen prevalence rates skyrocket."

    I do wonder why they wouldn't issue more antlerless permits, though. Interesting.
     
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  10. mbrewer

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    Increased access to antlerless permits is the kind of blunt force trauma even the most uninformed hunters can recognize and rally against. There are other less obvious means to achieve the same end. Looks like some of those are rightfully being considered as well.
     
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    You're right about this. When it comes to road kill sampling time is the primary consideration.

    Year round targeted harvest and sampling is the ticket.
     
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  12. Hunters Edge

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    I disagree. Not so much with testing but removal of the potential hazard should have been implemented.

    If you had a potential hazard for your child in the house you would pick it up out of reach or put in childproof cabinet, bleach etc. The only reason deer are not removed is the cost. Yet those left to rot if infected actually spread the disease through prions on the soil for years. Not to mention spread by wildlife eating the carrion.

    The only difference is as hunters we pay them essentially to bring the head and removal of carcass. On the side of the road, they would have to pay, not just the testing but manpower and carcass safely removal to a dump.

    So in the end it is costly not cost effective but to do nothing does little to stop the spread of CWD.
     
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    It is about cost and effectiveness and a bunch of other considerations including responsibility. The funding mechanisms and priority for removing road killed animals are localized initiatives.
     
  14. Justsayin

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    PGC had a plan to use sharpshooters post season but was a public relations failure. Hunters ultimately blocked the cull. They have had to back track to engage stakeholders in the process, thus the year plus time frame.

    I was wondering the same. Perhaps it is because they have had liberal antlerless permits for several years and this policy just continues forward. It is also possible that the net effect of APR's has increased buck populations. In a CWD area, more bucks equals more disease. PGC appears to be moving toward a buck centric harvest strategy for disease management.
     
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  15. motdean

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    You appear to be "well aware" on Pennsylvania's status.....DO you hunt there?