Pennsylvania CWD Press Conference

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by IceHog, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. jatc

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    Lowering the population is the same thing as killing off a significant portion of younger bucks! You don’t have to shoot a deer that is never born to begin with.
     
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  2. Sparky23

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    I don't think you're really in touch with what a lot of the areas that have CWD have for deer per square mile and I don't think that your understanding that some areas have shot off the majority of all the deer there they have dropped deer per square mile to next to nothing and it still remains at the same prevalence and the same spread as it was the only areas that have a substantial impact to the deer herd from CWD are areas where hunters or sharpshooters have killed off as many deer in that area as they could and it still did nothing Joe. The areas that have been left and have done nothing still have beer still have deer procreating still have mature animals still have yearling box they still have animals some of these areas have had this for years and years and nothing has changed the fact that we just started testing for it does not mean that it just arrived here in Michigan it doesn't mean that 17 or 18 years ago when it first arrived in Wisconsin or they first started testing for it that it had just gotten there it just means that they just started testing for it. I'm much more worried as well as many about severe outbreaks of ehd then I ever will be about CWD. some of the areas that you think have such great deer per square mile are areas that were affected by EHD and have very low deer density populations so how many more should be killed
     
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  3. Sparky23

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    Well said sir!
     
  4. Waif

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    [I don't think that you can show me one example where a state has reduced population density without protecting yearling bucks]

    Michigan has.
    Fremont is where "we" participated in major reduction. Somewhere in the eighties (?)
    Cripes man. From hundreds to a few is a reduction. It's been discussed here on M.S. before.
    (More area was involved than just Fremont). No protection of yearling bucks. Well no more than usual for the time . But tags may have been recently reduced from four bucks.(?) (Goodbye memory ,but unpleasant memories are affordable...)
    Not finding convenient articles on line to support my post. Must be the state is/was not proud of it...
    My host /friend /co-worker /hunting fishing partner claimed his neighbor averaged around 75 deer each of the first two years. He'd bought more and better equipment to process with. No reason to B.S. me about it.
    Some one else will remember the name of the commercial processor who's Amish ladies went on strike. (Cushman's?)
    Did not bode well for some carcasses...And more than a few hunters wouldn't come pick them up unprocessed. So we heard.

    Where hundreds had been years earlier, to a single track made during the night crossing the road my host lived on when we returned the third(?) year after hunting the N.W. instead of where hunting used to be good at his place.
    Not sure how much road we checked , but around a mile of it for argument...
     
  5. Trophy Specialist

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    20 deer per square mile would be an increase in my area. :)
     
  6. Tracker83

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    20 DPSM would be about a 75% reduction in the deer herd in the Montcalm CWD zone. I wonder how passionate and engaged Montcalm county deer hunters would be if they experienced that kind of reduction? One thing is for certain, we need hunters to continue hunting if we are going to manage this disease. As soon has hunters start walking away in significant numbers the fight has been lost.
     
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  7. motdean

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    Are you open to receiving them from Montcalm? :D
     
  8. Piranha man

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    COLORADO one of the 1st places CWD was DISCOVERED, Colorado 8-10 years ago MAPR!
    Colorado MORE elk than ALL other states combined!!
    Some input from the mature bucks are bad guys.
    If deer contact is bad why wouldn't mature does be worse than mature bucks? Bucks do not have the same contact as does with their fawns, a infected doe with cwd in 3 years not only has contact with other does but 5-6 fawns many times a day. Wouldn't they definitely spread it to ALL their fawns?
    Do we really believe that the 1st time diabetes or alzheimers was diagnosed that 10-20+ years prior those diseases didn't exist?
    FACT cwd MAY HAVE been here since the whitetail!!
    FACT cwd WAS HERE before the 1st deer/elk was tested.
    If such a scare about human transfer why isn't human health and services involved as much (if at all) as department of agriculture??
     
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  9. Joe Archer

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    Exactly! and you have some of the finest quality hunting experiences as anyone on this site!
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  10. Thirty pointer

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    Same here since 1989-90 still the hotspot in the state for CWD .
     
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  11. Sparky23

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    Wish I could hit like 5 or 6 more times for this
     
  12. sniper

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    Some just can’t comprehend it. To them it’s all about what some biologists is claiming to be gospel.
    What isn’t a ruse is if they lose hunters, then it’s game over.


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  13. Hillsdales Most Wanted

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    Dont ignore buck dispersal & the distance a buck will travel during the rut
     
  14. Dish7

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    Both of these statements are quite a stretch.
     
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    Id say my area is around 40 dpsm, possibly pushing 50 & thats after decade of basically shooting no does