Pennsylvania CWD Press Conference

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  1. IceHog

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  2. ckosal

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    is this wishful thinking by Penn? Like they have no better option so they can buy 3-5 years of "hope" why they execute this plan? Everything i have read seems to question the "discovery" as based on too little research. Or really just a theory like Prions are a theory?

    I read one of the articles highlighting Dr. Bashton's theories where he was interviewed. And i was kind of hopeful myself until i read (and heard here) his theory he will be able to also potentially treat human fatal diseases. If that were true, is it possible or is it reasonable all focus in the next 3 years would be on "deer" for first three years and then human diseases in later years - years 5-6? If the medical profession believes this even a little bit, wouldn't they go all in trying to test this/treat/cure things like CJD and the other things (certainly Alzheimer's) immediately?

    I am hopeful it is legit. But i am struggling to buy so many aspects of this. BUT...i have to believe the Pennsylvania experts know more than me... so i will go back to being hopeful...
     
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    I'll be happy with just the field test. No way in hell will I try to hold a deer down after lunch and spray something up its nose
     
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    Watched this several months ago... after some light googling you’ll find that the good doctors findings have unfortunately not been verified by the scientific community at large. Though I appreciate some of the optimism most of this press conference is, I fear, wishful thinking.


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  5. DirtySteve

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    This was almost a year ago now and has been reposted on this site many times. Nobody has heard anything from this organization since. Many feel it was a fundraising ploy. Ask yourself.....if this researcher really has all these miracle discoveries he would probably be winning some serious awards in his trade. Do you really think he would be letting these bumbling idiots be the guys representing him and anouncing his exciting news?
     
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    Here is the location of their preliminary response plan:

    https://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/Wildlife-RelatedDiseases/Documents/Draft CWD Response Plan.pdf

    It is a pretty interesting document. I have cut and pasted the italicized excerpt below:

    Genetics plays a role in CWD susceptibility. Variations in the prion protein (PRNP) gene can affect individual susceptibility to and progression of CWD (Robinson et al. 2012). Although there is no genetic immunity, some rare genotypes are associated with lower rates of CWD infection and slower progression of clinical disease (Hamir et al. 2006). However, the individuals with the less susceptible genotype are not immune to CWD. Certain populations of deer in Pennsylvania (Bedford, Blair, Huntingdon, Franklin, and Fulton) have a significantly higher frequency of the more susceptible genotype than deer populations previously surveyed from New Jersey, Wisconsin, Wyoming, and Canada (Blanchong et al. 2009, Robinson et al. 2012, Miller and Walter 2019). Therefore, if not managed effectively, CWD might have a greater impact on the deer population in portions of Pennsylvania compared to other regions.



    Also, a pretty interesting item is that they noted that the USGS-PA Cooperative Research Unit already has a preliminary model to estimate the impact of increased antlerless harvest as well as removal of APR's on CWD infection rates.

    This is something that our DNR has stated that we are years away from being able to do. I do NOT want to turn this into a regulation thread, but perhaps rather than continuing to funnel money to MSU, they could work with those that are already ahead of Michigan to become more efficient.

    After all, wasn't that the premise and promise of the CWD Symposium?
    Also, that might allow for more money to be freed up for testing harvested animals.

    Another interesting item that they are considering is being able to use any arms and ammunitions from October 17th to Jan 30th in the CWD zones.

    It isn't final yet, and people can comment on it until the end of February.

    Good stuff!
     
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  7. 7mmsendero

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    One thing about our DNR leadership that I’ve noticed, they seem to struggle with the idea of copying things that work in other states. We seem to like reinventing the wheel here, even if there’s much we can learn from other places.
     
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  8. motdean

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    Thank you. That was the absolute message that I wanted readers to walk away with.

    In fairness to our DNR, I don't know if the model developed by Pa could be re-used in Michigan, but I would suspect that a slight modification of it could be.

    I also noted that they are hoping to keep CWD to less than 5% in regions of Pa that have it.
     
  9. Sparky23

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    What has worked in other states?
     
  10. Thirty pointer

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    Fear mongering .
     
  11. Trophy Specialist

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    The research of Dr. Bastian has been ignored by the MI DNR because it does not agree with their current CWD eradication plan, which is to spend millions on testing and monitoring deer, issue excessive antlerless tags in an attempt to wipe out the deer herd where ever hunters and farmers are willing to kill them all off and ban baiting deer. Oh, I almost forgot, lots of meetings are also part of their CWD eradication plan. We must have lots of meetings or CWD will spread like wildfire. I'm sure that the DNR's plan will stop CWD cold. I'm expecting no reported cases of CWD in 2020. LOL Heaven forbid getting behind actual research for a cure.
     
  12. 7mmsendero

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    In general or in regards to CWD? I’m speaking in general. We have a tendency to ignore successful management strategies in other states.
     
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    Ok...fair enough. That does tend to be true in many areas.
     
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    Just because 25 States are lowering their buck age structure in cwd zones doesnt mean MI is wrong. Well....yes MI is wrong:lol:
     
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    Yes. Since those other states our working out so well right?