Muskegon wastewater hunt 2020

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  1. tkpolasek

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    I also believe weather dictates a lot on what they want to feed on. I'm going to hunt a field tomorrow that is nothing but dirt. Still beans in there after being tilled though. Makes for a tough hide though.
     
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    The corn has only recently started coming off - week to 10 days ago. There are still many fields to harvest yet. Birds are feeding off the unit for now. As days get shorter, weather gets colder, new birds arrive, etc., they'll discover the corn and all the waste grain as easy pickens for a lot less work. In the meantime, scout as much as you can. Vary your times as the birds really haven't settled in to a pattern yet.

    Sat draw had 17 parties. Not a lot of shooting. Bird counts were about the same as last week. Sort of the Oct lull.
     

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    They'll eat in that hay as long as they can from my experience. It's been a long time since I've had a good goose/mallard hunt in a cut cornfield anywhere. A lot of the equipment around us either leaves too much stalk standing or literally mows it flat to the ground. Much better idea to find a green field or a wet bean field and try to hunt them there.

    I've hunted the MWW many times, and only once did we have a banger in a cut corn field, but we also got sprayed by the center pivot for most of the hunt.
     
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  4. Far Beyond Driven

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    First time up this year. Draw went well, smoothly handled. Drew poorly. Still got a field I'm happy with. A goose piling in suicide at 1pm didn't hurt. Had one duck look hard passed on the swing and it didn't come back. Pretty sure we will get a few more chances tonight.
     
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    From the lack of shooting and bird movement last night I think we did ok. Didn't waste any opportunities.

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    curious on the spread/amount of calling you do. im new and not super experienced and workin with roughly 1 dozen ducks and 1 dozen silhouettes, what kind of set ups are working best for you.
     
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    I see so many guys and gals ask the question about calling, and after having practiced for thousands of hours in my truck on the way to and from work, I have come to the summation that if you are set up where the birds want to be, are hidden well, and know how to use a flag and can manage a few low honks/clucks/moans...you are gonna do alright. Sure, there is competition around you at the MWW...bigger spreads, better calling, etc. etc. but if you can SCOUT multiple options and HIDE yourself and don't do anything to SCREW it up (i.e. get lazy stubbling blinds, unnatural decoy placement (Ever seen geese oriented in a perfect V in a field?), dudes wearing shiny watches, etc. etc) things will be ok. Sure, there will be days when you don't pull the trigger, but attention to little details is what consistently kills birds day in and day out. FBD's post above may only have three birds in it, but I know that it was a tough day for most, because it is likely that those three are the only birds that gave him an opportunity, and he rarely ever misses out when things go right. Bet there were plenty of other groups that didn't get a chance to pick up their guns.

    I shot my first goose at the MWW with FBD a LONG time ago in the middle of the afternoon on a sunny, windless day while laying under a burlap blanket with my head on a goose shell. I had a Big River flute in my hand and I made some sort of goose-like sound that turned the bird into the field, and after that I just laid there and did nothing until it got to 15 yards and I folded it. FBD got to watch the whole thing from the hood of the Blue Escort....as he had made a run for a water or something.

    It's a 3.5 hour drive for me to the MWW. Been many years since I have been, but always enjoyed my trips up there, birds or not. Those of you who live within an hour of there are really missing out on a fantastic opportunity to field hunt for geese and ducks. If I lived closer, it would be my day to day....because you earn your birds at that place.
     
  8. Far Beyond Driven

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    We ran 11 dozen geese and five dozen ducks, two spinners.

    However, one of my best hunts there solo was one trip out with 30 silhouettes and a spinny. This was in a field I went in stand by after the draw, that held very few birds; I just chipped away at singles.

    Ducks wanted nothing to do with calling yesterday.

    The goose was suicidal so we slow played him until he picked up to about 30 yards so we got more aggressive until he set his wings, then backed off until he tried to short land where we had to yell at him again.

    As BFG said, unless you are good at reading birds and calling, that less is way better than more. I can't call ducks for crap but still kill some.
     
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  9. nichola8

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    You have to see what the birds want as far as calling goes. Start soft and slow, if they like it they will show you. Same as the other comments.... I have had days where I never grab my call and I have had days where I'm screaming at them as they form a tornado coming down, as soon as I ease off they start showing less interest.

    My rule of thumb, if they are not coming directly towards me, I will do a little calling to get there attention, when they start coming in I will ease off big time. If I start losing them, I hit them with the call again and get as aggressive as I need to.
     
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    11 dozen geese and 5 dozen ducks....you would have been scrambling if that was an AM hunt. My first hunt out there (AM) we ran 4 dozen full body geese, 2 dozen full body mallards, 2 spinners and 2 layouts. Got a bad draw and snagged a green field. We were still grassing up when birds were flying. We got 2 geese, Nic said it was the first time birds ever got shot in that field.
     
  11. Far Beyond Driven

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    We hung around after the draw for a while in no hurry and were locked and loaded by 12:11 pm.

    Layouts are already stubbled based on the best guess of what zone we will be in. Three to four guys that have hunted together a lot, and running all silhouettes, and having a hunt master and chain of command where every one knows their roles and we can throw down thirty to forty dozen and be sipping coffee before hours even after the time change.

    We had two guys yesterday and hunted about as far from the pivot as legal, and parked well away from our zone, and we were rolling home in under an hour from hours granted tear down is faster than set up.

    Lots of hints buried above.
     
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    Here's some other ideas:

    All blinds have tan raffia on them as a base. I have three blinds and one will have greens in it, one weeds, and one corn. All can be changed out before hand if we've scouted and know where we want to hunt. I have rubber maid bins of corn stubble in the barn and can cut grass and weeds from the shoulder of my road as needed.

    Full bodies take up a ton of room and take longer to set up. You are not pulling out 16 dozen in one trip in a jet sled 1.

    Jet sleds and sherpas. Everyone shuttles out the first load. Blinds are thrown down, gear bags set on them, decoys unloaded. Jet sleds are then nestled together and the sled sherpa(s) runs them back to the center pivot while the hunt master sets the outline and the decoy sherpas stock him then fill in the body of the spread. Then sled sherpa goes and parks all the trucks. Then he takes a sled back with any extra gear stashed at the pivot, and hikes out all the decoy bags to the pivot. Sucks, but someone's gotta do it. Usually the youngest guy. Don't let your crew know you jog a lot.

    Sometimes the quickest route to set up isn't down the center pivot.

    That's how you set 40 dozen in an hour. That's a ridiculous amount of decoys, yes, but I've seen a crew draw 18/18 and pick last, set up a black hole spread, and kill 31 birds while the guys with draw 1 watched as they had nothing else to do.

    Often, half our duck kill is birds either landed before hours and jumped at hours, or shot in the first minutes, especially on tough days. We aren't rushing to grass up. We're hunting.
     
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  13. Far Beyond Driven

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    I'll be scouting tonight. Won't be able to miss us.

    Not expecting much and planning on raking the yard tomorrow but you never know.

    Pack sunblock if you go.
     
  14. tkpolasek

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    Just leaving to see if it's worth a hunt tomorrow also.