"Immenent" dam failure evacuations

Discussion in 'Sound Off' started by ESOX, May 19, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Josh R

    Josh R Premium Member

    Messages:
    5,698
    Likes Received:
    8,649
    Location:
    Munger
    For those asking about Dow, here's a pic. I have no idea on the structures tho

    M30 Bridge in Wixom is GONE also[​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
     
    Swampdog467, FIJI, BILC and 4 others like this.
  2. BILC

    BILC

    Messages:
    1,495
    Likes Received:
    8,208
    A buddy of mine sent me this picture this morning. It's his sons friends basement in Midland. The fish is real. IMG_2038 (002).jpg
     
    NbyNW, Swampdog467, TK81 and 12 others like this.

  3. Shagy

    Shagy

    Messages:
    479
    Likes Received:
    589
    Location:
    Belleville
  4. OH-YEAH!!!

    OH-YEAH!!! Premium Member

    Messages:
    6,780
    Likes Received:
    4,806
    The downtown public library’s basement was just renovated last June because of flooding.

    Maybe the dams should be removed. They weren’t helping much other than to create a water reserve for when the river gets a major deluge. 8704E6D5-6A22-4737-BD0D-7DF81BEDD63B.png
     
    tincanary likes this.
  5. FIJI

    FIJI IZ Kamakawiwo'ole lives! Premium Member

    Messages:
    5,128
    Likes Received:
    164
    Location:
    Oakland County
    I was there to watch the Edenville Dam fail, as I went to help volunteer transport evacuees to Emergency Shelters. Sheriff last off the bridge said there were 3 foot rip rap boulders swirling like pea gravel as they closed off M-30. You could feel the ground tremble standing in Stryker's Marina parking lot. Secord Lake is 4 FEET above the all-time record and our dam is still holding - for now! When I left this morning it had dropped about 4-5 inches since last night. Boats still attached to docks are floating everywhere. Rafts and jet skis are bobbing around like toys. No electricity in and around Edenville. Its a MESS
     
  6. PerchPatrol

    PerchPatrol

    Messages:
    3,931
    Likes Received:
    7,292
    Location:
    Bay City
    I do wonder if they will be rebuilt. Lots of ex lakefront property owners probably hope so.
     
    U of M Fan likes this.
  7. Oldgrandman

    Oldgrandman Woods and Water Rat Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,898
    Likes Received:
    20,995
    Location:
    Up on Cripple Creek
    Crazy, it's like 1986 was here, but over there. But there is a gonna be a lot more damage this time.
     
  8. Gordon Casey

    Gordon Casey

    Messages:
    4,380
    Likes Received:
    3,862
    You convinced me, from now on I will call anything that holds back water a dam!
     
    TK81 likes this.
  9. tom_the_chemist

    tom_the_chemist

    Messages:
    661
    Likes Received:
    1,135
    Location:
    Birch Run, MI
    Not sure if you are implying the dams were the cause of the flooding in Midland in recent years. They were not.

    That flooding was due to heavy rainfall in the city. It affected many of my co-workers who are living in areas of Midland completely unaffected by the dam breach flooding.

    Had one co-worker who had to fix the drywall in his basement in back to back years.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
     
  10. Nitro225Optimax

    Nitro225Optimax

    Messages:
    6,868
    Likes Received:
    5,472
    Location:
    Fenton, MI
    That will be an interesting discussion. Many angles. Is rebuilding the dam good for the environment? I believe some have said the dams should come down. What is the recreation worth in local revenue and how does that translate into state tax revenue? What about property values and future property tax revenues? I’m guessing in order to rebuild the dam to be stronger so this never happens again would cost tens of millions of dollars. It seems most dams that fail are not rebuilt? I do feel bad for the home owners. Home values just dropped by 50% or more.

    I do have a silly question. Since the state owned the waterway, who now owns all that dirt? Do homeowners lots extend into the lake and now they have larger lots? Does the state own the dirt? I guess my question is, how will lot lines be redrawn?


    Sent from my iPhone using Michigan Sportsman
     
  11. Gordon Casey

    Gordon Casey

    Messages:
    4,380
    Likes Received:
    3,862
    I hear the 500 year event repeated often, but I'm wondering how bad it was and what damage it caused.
    Midland, 500 years ago did not look like Midland today! There were no houses, no development, no ditches and yes no dams. I'm thinking that a event that happens every 500 years will cause much more damage in a developed area.
     
    sureshot006 likes this.
  12. Nitro225Optimax

    Nitro225Optimax

    Messages:
    6,868
    Likes Received:
    5,472
    Location:
    Fenton, MI
    American Rivers reports that in the United States, nearly 850 dams have been removed in the last 20 years, with more than a hundred removed in 2012 and 2013 alone. "We're at the end of the large dam-building era in this country and the beginning of the river restoration era," says Irvin.


    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...wha-river-dam-removal-salmon-science-olympic/


    Sent from my iPhone using Michigan Sportsman
     
  13. Oldgrandman

    Oldgrandman Woods and Water Rat Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,898
    Likes Received:
    20,995
    Location:
    Up on Cripple Creek
    Wow, the Tit is ripping! Look at the Grand for comparison.

    the tit.jpg


    gr.jpg
     
    eggfly and MichiFishy like this.
  14. mbirdsley

    mbirdsley

    Messages:
    1,854
    Likes Received:
    1,441
    Location:
    Chesaning/Brant
    These are key questions that are going to be discussed I’m sure. With out the lake or lakes there is no reason for all those houses in the middle of nowhere gladwin/midland counties. I would bet the dams have more value to the county as Lake front property tax value than as power generating stations.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2020
    DanSS26, NbyNW, Swampdog467 and 6 others like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.