I wouldn't go with Orvis. I bought my first pair of stoking foot waders from them a few years ago. After less than a year the seam on the left leg started leaking. Sent them back and they wouldn't replace them. Told me they would give me 50 dollars credit towards a new pair. Told them to stick their credit and told them I was going to buy a pair of Simms waders. Which I did.