Hook up to land ratio

Discussion in 'Center Pin Fishing' started by tman69671, May 5, 2019.

  1. tman69671

    tman69671

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    I have been fishing some small lake Superior tribs lately for steelhead and seem to be loosing a lot of fish. Ive been fishing (8mm) beads, bags or a combo of the two with #8 Bloodrun skeena hooks. It seems like I have been getting a lot of bobber downs and when I set the hook, the fish head shake and roll a few times and then shed the hook. Any recommendations to improve my hook up to land ratio? I have read to try soft beads and maybe a bigger hook? Ive even read that switching to braid could help (currently running 12lb raven w/ seagar 6lb leader)?
     
  2. PunyTrout

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    Welcome to the forum. Your hooks might have become dull after hitting a few snags/rocks. Carry a hook sharpener with you and always sharpen your hooks periodically when fishing. Also could be related to your fish fighting/ landing technique(s).
     

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    FWIW I use Blood Run trebles on some of my spinners and I always sharpen them before I finish putting them together. Most hooks could always use a bit of sharpening even if new.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, I think that could be my issue. I also just picked up some #6 and #4 owner mosquito hooks to give a try.
     
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    Owners are good hooks. Rule of thumb: if you can scrimshaw your initials into your finger nail with the point of the hook, it's sharp enough to hook a fish.
     
  6. ausable_steelhead

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    Try Raven Specimen Wide Gap hooks. I use #8 for 8mm beads and have good, solid hookups. These are a heavier gauge, strong hook. They’re also sharp and hold a point very well.

    Remember with beads, sometimes it’s also about how well the fish are taking your bead.
     
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    I’ve found the larger I’ve gone, the better the ratio this spring. I had switched over to vmc 9299 size 4 for 8s and 10s. Also dabbled with raven specialist size 2 for 10s. Best landing ratio I’ve experienced yet with beads on those two hooks. Previously I only ran size 6 and 8 hooks.
     
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    That’s the one issue with beads, you can have a real bad day of losing fish. Some people mastered it, some like me mostly lose fish lol.
     
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    I pretty much stick to the bead size / hook size although I will occasionally go larger on the hook size. If the bead fits in the hook gap that is what I want. I have also found that some times you need to down size the beads, and this year especially have been going to 6mm beads a lot.
    As others have said make sure the hood is sharp.
     
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    Are your hooks snelled? I hear using snelled hooks results in better hook ups when using beads.
     
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    Interesting you mention the 6mm. My buddies have all been doing well lately running 6’s. Makes complete sense, as the eggs in the water right now are steelhead and sucker. I’ve been running 8’s on the AS and have been doing fine, but will get some 6mm just in case.
     
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    You still need to cross their eyes on your hookset, even with floats. Don't give them a chance to suck/spit your offering. Especially if you have a light/slow action rod. Rods with fast action will set your hooks much better.
     
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    I normally use a snelled hook. It may be just in my mind, but it seems as though since I started doing this, my hookup rate is better.
     
  14. tman69671

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    Thanks for all the replies, I think I'm going to try the snelled hook. Do you guys tie a regular snell or the Uni version snell? The Uni style looks a little easier for frozen fingers. I've only had about 25min on the river with the Owner hooks and soft beads, I did hook one but I definitely was slacking on the hookset. I'm just gonna really lay the wood to them every time that float goes down. Also its not just beads that I loose fish on even when fishing just a bag I have the same problem, I can land them all day on jigs in the bigger rivers.
     
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    You could use circle hooks, and just hang on until the fish hook themselves. But where is the fun in that? ;)