FullQuiver, yes, I am saying that! Absolutely! And it has nothing to do with anybody's opinion of themselves, it has to do with the costs of operating a full time business as a professional commercial trapper on a year around basis combined with their training, skill level, and their years of experience with various tools of the trade. Trappers, the type I am talking about, protect people's livelihoods (crops, livestock, wildlife), their personal property, and human health. And many of them get paid to fur trap as a preventive measure against, or to limit, future problems the following spring and summer. Even at last season's low prices for fur some of these trappers grossed in excess of $45K in fur alone for 90 to 120 days of trapping and fur processing. So as Seldom eluded to, I am not discussing your average run-of-the-mill fur trapper who might trap a handful of animals in the fall before freeze up as a hobby. For the record FullQuiver, one of my mentors, who agrees with me on this topic is a retired veterinarian with 8 years of medical training. I want all trappers, or those who want to be a trapper, to think about this; A new truck for trapping will cost you upwards of $50K just to purchase one for cash without any financial charges/fees. Then there are financial costs for depreciation, insurance, maintenance, tires, fuel, etc., etc.. Every time you start that truck or drive a mile it is costing you money whether it is devoted exclusively as a business vehicle or you have to use it as a family vehicle in addition to your trapping vehicle. Even if you do all of the maintenance work yourself there are still time costs associated with that. The same goes with specialized equipment such as a quad-runner, side-by-side, snowmobile, boat, etc., etc.. Traps cost money, a lot of money, whether they are new or not. And high quality foot hole traps such as Sterlings, Jakes, Belisle's, etc., are at the top end but not by far when you figure in the costs of modifying the lower priced traps. Cage traps, especially the high end cages all cost money. Specialized firearms utilizing thermal imaging and suppressors, or highly trained specialized breeds of dogs for decoying coyotes, or for running certain animals all cost big money that quickly gets into the thousands of dollars. Remote satellite trap checkers and their use costs big money. Wire stretchers, fur boards, stakes, drags, hammers, lures, baits, urines, gloves, etc., etc., all cost money. Even your trapping education will cost you money whether you take one-on-one personal on-the-line instructions, attend a "college", buy books and/or dvd's, or attend the school of hard knocks. Trapping, for fur and for ADC purposes, is a commercial business whether you do it at a hobby level or as a full or part-time profession. All of this money that you have spent is a financial investment in yourself and your equipment. So take pride in what you do. Seek out and learn from the best in the business, not necessarily the most advertised or well known. There is a difference. And understand that your trapping knowledge, skills, and abilities have great value. You set the price of that value. If somebody refuses to pay you what you feel you; your time, knowledge, skills, abilities, and equipment, are worth then they don't really have a problem! The same applies to fur trapping. If a fur buyer can't pay what you need to turn a profit, or break even, store your fur or don't trap. There is no such thing as "free". You are either making money, breaking even, or paying to trap. The choice is yours on which one you do.