Farmers Bring bTB to Two More Zone 3 counties

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by Luv2hunteup, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. riverman

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    Don't argue that one bit. The problem now is the deer herd is spilling tb back to the domestic animals. Nothing can stop this from happening now other than TOTAL eradication of all ruminants. It's a no win situation.
     
  2. Luv2hunteup

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    A good read is the Chronology of bovine TB since 1975. It sure doesn’t sugar coat that cattle farmers infected deer, elk, bears, coyotes, raccoons, possums plus a host of other creatures.

    I fully support testing all live cattle prior to transport along with quarantine until results have been returned.
     

  3. riverman

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    I would support that in the north east tb zone as long as the state is willing to compensate the owner if that animal dies before results and that animal is perfectly fine for slaughter and consumption.

    Lets not forget that less than 100 years ago THERE WERE NO DEER in zone three. It was cattle and sheep. I have pictures of what the land looked like back then. Far cry from today. The DEER moved to zone three when modern agriculture started to take the place of grazing. I am a avid deer hunter, but the right to farm and protection of that right will always be the first of my concerns.
     
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    As much as I like being able to put a years supply of meat in the freezer on my own farm I have to question the wisdom of having significant numbers of deer in Ag areas. It seems all the bad diseases start and are most prevalent in Ag areas. Btb, CWD, EEE, QDM, EHD are all most common in Ag areas. Ag is here to stay no question so if some giving way is going to happen it will be the deer that are reduced.
     
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  5. Gawel Gary

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    Hunteup, have you not read the MOU that you posted? If you had you would see that any cattle in the northeast area if not going direct to slaughter require a movement permit. In order to obtain a movement permit an animal must have an official EID ear tag, come from a herd that has had a negative whole herd test in that last 12 months and the animal that is being moved has been tested negative in the previous 60 days.
     
  6. Luv2hunteup

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    Have you been to one of the meetings? The USDA started that they only have 80% compliance plus they do not require all cattle to be tested prior to movement. MDARD and USDA has no idea where all cattle operations are in the NELP. They have to drive around looking for cattle operations to make sure they notify cattle farmers inside the 5 mile radius so they can notify that they have to get their cattle tested.

    If they quit paying indemnification with taxpayer money for bTB positive cattle it would provide in incentive for buyers to ensure they knew they came from a bTB free herd.
     
  7. Gawel Gary

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    Have not been been to any meetings, however worked for 10 years in the Atlanta office first as a tech assisting in the on farm testing and then with a co-worker developing the electronic identification program and movement permit system used in Michigan. It states in the MOU you posted cattle are required to have a movement test unless going directly to slaughter. Read the MOU again.
     
  8. Trophy Specialist

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    If that's true, then please explain how these last two cases occurred then?
     
  9. Liver and Onions

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    Close, but not zero deer in the SLP back then.

    L & O
     
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  10. riverman

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    From what i have read the first positive in southern MI led to the discovery of the second by tracking. I am assuming that tracking was possible because the animals had the required ear tags. To how that would be possible the animals may have been infected after the 60 day negative test by contaminated feed by the deer herd or contact. Like I said before, the deer herd in that area is spilling btb back to the cattle, a very tough situation to control.
     
  11. Luv2hunteup

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    There USDA and MDARD knows they don’t have 100% compliance on known cattle operations plus no idea on how many unknown cattle operations there are. That is why it was stated in the 80% compliance range. Deer receive the blame but when I asked if it is possible that other creatures spreading it we were told yes. Michigan has even had bTB cattle imported from out of state in the last couple of years.

    Latent bTB is in the cattle herd. All it takes is a stressor to make it active. Sooner or later the USDA will change Michigan’s BTB status.
     
  12. riverman

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    About one-quarter of the world's population has latent TB, which means people have been infected by TB bacteria but are not (yet) ill with the disease and cannot transmit the disease. People infected with TB bacteria have a 5–15% lifetime risk of falling ill with TB.4 days ago
     
  13. Luv2hunteup

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    That is one of things that is brought up at every meeting I’ve been to. Selling of non pasteurized milk is another. The USDA and MDARD has only been able to curtail its use but not eliminate it.

    The fact still remains the cattle farmers are still spreading bTB around our state. The USDA threatens to revoke Michigan’s TB free status and the MDARD comes up with a plan that allows its spread via transportation and bio security. Every breakout is met with the same plan. Shoot down the deer herd to reduce recreational property values so cattle operations can expand on cheap land.
     
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    Known locations where cattle farmers have spread bTB recently.


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