CWD.....From Some Deer Farmers' Perspective.

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by motdean, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. motdean

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    Watched this video this morning.

    Although I do not agree with all of the content, there are some pretty interesting take-aways.



    Hopefully folks take the time to watch it so that we can have a healthy discussion on it.
     
  2. mbrewer

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    I watched the whole thing. A complete and total disaster, nothing but a Cervidae Industry infomercial. The contradictions come and go so fast it's hard to keep track of them.

    They (Cervidae Industry pimps) did a really good job of hammering home what average joe want's to hear, and they were able to do so with a straight face. So there's that, I guess.

    Watching that made me feel like Hector ringing his bell.

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  3. motdean

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    Discussion Point #1

    Hopefully I got this correct:

    They mention that CWD in cervids was first found in a Colorado State Pen.

    They caught some wild mule deer does, let them have fawns, and then released the does back into the wild. They kept the fawns, which were found to have CWD.

    These deer were kept in the same pens as sheep and elk. Sheep are known to carry scrapie.

    The mention that the deer found with CWD were not responsible for spreading it in the wild, as they were dead when tested and they were never shipped from their pens.

    The question that begs to be answered, and why I believe that it is an incomplete thought is:

    What about the mule deer does that were released after having their fawns? Could that be how it initially was introduced into deer and into the wild?

    I believe that it was also mentioned that it jumped species from sheep to mule deer. Why do people believe that it wouldn't jump to other species, and eventually humans?
     
  4. stickbow shooter

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  5. sniper

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    Lost me at cwd...Not watching anymore snorefest cwd vids..Sorry it's now at the bottom of things I give 2 flying craps about!

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    Lost me at Kroll. He should focus on the bTB issue. fix that and we will be impressed.
     
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  7. motdean

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    Discussion Point #2

    It was stated in the video that "CWD is not always fatal in deer."

    Wait, what?

    Since when?
     
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  8. Hillsdales Most Wanted

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    Mother nature building a tolerance??:xzicon_sm
     
  9. motdean

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    Could be, but everything I've read to-date says that it is always fatal....
     
  10. motdean

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    Discussion Point #3
    (At about the 12:07 mark....)

    If I understood correctly, they indicate that CWD has a low prevalence rate. They indicate that it is no where near the 30-50% rate for bTB that buffalo and elk have reached in a certain area..

    I wonder if they are aware of the prevalence rates in SW Wisconsin.

    (BTW, this video appears to be published in April of 2013.)
     
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    I heard a rumor that a lot of hunters in Wisconsin have gotten to the point that they wont get a deer test for cwd unless it appears sick.

    If this were true the prevalence rates will be very high.
     
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    I had a few "huh?" in the first 8 minutes before hitting pause. I'd need a note pad and paper to keep track. Right now I need breakfast and coffee more.
     
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  13. motdean

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    DISCUSSION POINT #4

    It was mentioned that Tennessee will not allow deer farming, but they do allow elk farming....

    Huh? Why would they allow one and not the other?

    They didn't specifically state that the bills to allow deer farming were defeated due to CWD...Could this be the case?
     
  14. motdean

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    DISCUSSION POINT #5
    At about the 32:10 point in the video:

    They make mention that there is a live animal test that can be used on Whitetails only. They indicate that the USDA has reviewed and confirmed the validity of the test, called a rectal biopsy.

    Hmmm...Think about that. Would sure add another measure of protection to ensure that deer transport from farm to farm is being carried out by (at least then) CWD-free deer.

    I wonder why we haven't heard about it. I also wonder if it could be done to speed up testing or allow hunters the ability to keep the skull and cape for taxidermy.

    ...and if it is in the rectum, could it be elsewhere in the body (other organs or muscle/meat??
     
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