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Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by Raider_03, Nov 1, 2018.
Johnes.... damn auto spell
Here is a quote from “Current Scientific Knowledge About CWD, Davis, et al. April 2018:
“Let’s examine some examples in detail. First is in regard to “spread between animals by body fluids like feces, saliva, blood, or urine”.
Blood – A single white-tailed fawn experimentally injected intravenously (IV) with 250 ml of blood from CWD positive deer, and 2 other fawns injected intraperitoneally (IP) with 250 ml of blood from CWD positive deer. All 3 fawns became CWD positive by 18 months post injection.
NOTE: Where in nature in free-ranging deer receive 250 ml of blood in a IV transfusion, or 250 ml of blood injected IP?
Urine and Feces– 3 fawns (one died) orally inoculated with a total 50 ml each of urine and feces over 3 days from CWD infected deer. The 2 remaining fawns were CWD negative at 180 days.
Saliva – 3 fawns were orally exposed to 50 ml of saliva from CWD infected deer. By 180 days post-oral exposure, all 3 fawns were CWD Positive.
NOTE: Where in nature are free-ranging deer exposed to 50 ml of saliva in 3 days?
The above results were published in a very prestigious journal- Science 2006: Mathiason et al., “Infectious prions in the saliva and blood of deer with chronic wasting disease.”
The big problem is that scientific results like the above are misunderstood, misquoted, and extrapolated by others. It is a fact that CWD prions can be found in saliva, blood, urine and feces in experiments, but perhaps only the numbers of prions in saliva in large doses are capable of transmitting CWD by normal routes of infection in nature.”
Johnes is a known virus in the digestive system not a prion or brain disease according to google.
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True, but still has same end result with no cure.
There is a chance with a virus to come up with something. Right now, there is nothing can be done with prions, and nothing even in the works.
Yah - that's what I meant.
I remember reading that 16 years ago in F&S or something. Googled & found it. Thought they all had Cjd.
Ah - thought Alzheimer's & Dementia were both prion diseases.
Thanks for the clarification.
Could be that prions are not whats contagious, it could be a bacteria that causes it similar to lyme disease. The tick does not have lyme disease, it carries the bacteria that can cause lyme disease.
Some believe that Parkinson's is a prion disease. However three or four other things are listed as probable causes.
Multiple people that were working with Michael j Fox on the same set - also got Parkinson's. Coincidence or...??
If it were a disease like CWD it would spread like it. Coincidence, if it is true.
I have zero knowledge of Parkinson's - just heard that one time. I don't think they know for sure how people get it.? I would think it was not coincidental.
There is zero evidence that it is contageous, which seems to be what you're implying.
Sounds like a bar rumor. Can you share a link ? Something like that must be big news.
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