CDW, what if gets worse

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by Raider_03, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. sureshot006

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    The vast majority are killed young here. That's the basis behind the idea that very few actually die of CWD. In urban areas, they may live longer because of no hunters.
     
  2. Grizzly Adams

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    Valid point. Bunch of Wisconsin fawns tested positive this year - so I would guess the testing is better, or fairly accurate?

    Myself - I've are deer from Illinois years ago when they had cwd & didn't get them tested. Mich ...haven't gotten one in a few years due to Ehd hammered some spots - & passed on some small ones after that. Will probably get future ones tested tho.
     

  3. Grizzly Adams

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    Not sure if sky is falling or not. I would guess we will mimic Wisc tho over the years to come.

    Some years old article ...but


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    Deadly Game?

    RICHARD JEROME

    September 23, 2002 12:00 PM


    One day in 1999 Jim Botts sat down to write a grocery list–and suddenly, his hand produced only scribbles. It was the start of a swift decline that baffled doctors. “Within days he couldn’t speak,” recalls Judy, his wife of 33 years. “He lost his eyesight. He’d twitch and tremble.”

    Two months later Jim, 55, was dead. Specialists had diagnosed him with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a fatal affliction in which rogue proteins called prions riddle the brain with spongelike holes. In humans, CJD is known to be acquired either sporadically (striking one person in a million), genetically or by infection. (About 300 people in the U.S. have died from it in the past year.)

    It is well-known that humans can contract CJD by eating cattle stricken with mad cow disease, which has killed 120 people (mostly in Great Britain) since 1995. But the deaths of Jim Botts and two other men raise a troubling new question: whether game animals infected with chronic wasting disease, a mad cowlike ailment, pose similar dangers.

    Judy Botts first began to wonder whether there was a connection between venison consumption and her husband’s illness days after Jim’s death. That was when she learned from her mother that 66-year-old Wayne Waterhouse, a bait-company owner and acquaintance of Jim’s from their old hometown of Chetek, Wis., had also died of CJD in 1993. For years Waterhouse, an avid hunter, had held periodic feasts for as many as 100 friends, serving deer, elk and other wild game at his Brule River cabin about two hours from Chetek. Jim Botts, who fished the Brule, attended about a dozen times. In 2000 Water-house’s son Gary, 55, called Judy to discuss the coincidence; he later pointed it out to the press, along with the fact that a third regular at the feasts, 66-year-old Roger Marten, had died with symptoms similar to CJD. The resulting flurry of articles prompted officials at the Centers for Disease Control to test tissue from Botts, Waterhouse and Marten. The studies will determine if Marten actually died of CJD and will analyze the tissue of all three men for markers linked to chronic wasting disease.
     
  4. DirtySteve

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    I think you need to do some research. Cwd has never jumped the species barrier. They have been trying to give it to cows for 16 years with no luck. Doesnt affect humans.

    I am going to go out on a limb and say you are referring to vCJD. If that is the case you are completely wrong. vCJD is a variant of BSE (mad cow). vCJD has nothing to do with cwd. CWD is a different prion all together that has only been found in cervids.

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  5. Hunters Edge

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    https://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,4579,7-186-76711_78204---,00.html

    Click on FAQ or open PDF file

    Scroll down to the question (ls it safe to eat meat from CWD positive deer?)
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    "It is not recommended to eat the meat from known CWD infected animal"

    Anything you suggest beside this you are IMO pissing into the wind.

    No one said or posted the sky is falling but yourself. Please do not post or imply I posted, which I did not post.

    To err on the side of caution is to follow the advise or guidelines that the MIDNR has advised. Not to say or imply it is safe to eat positive or known CWD infected animals, which your post implies.
     

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  6. Lightfoot

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    That's all you got? Three sentences from the link you provided??

    "the sky is falling" is just reference to repetitive fear mongering posts. It is a generalization, not a quote. If you read anything else to that???

    "...which your post implies." That right there tells me you either did NOT read the link I posted or did NOT understand what you read. I supplied a link that supported your statement. Too funny.
     
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  7. Grizzly Adams

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    Human version = Cjd, Alzheimer's etc
     
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    3 buddies that all ate wild game dinners together, get Cjd. Coincidence or not??
     
  9. DirtySteve

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    Not true at all. Cjd has nothing to do with cwd. The only way they are similar is that they are both prion diseases. Cwd has nothing to do cjd. Cjd is considered the human form of BSE....another prion disease.

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  10. DirtySteve

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    If you are going to reference articles showing theories from 16 yrs ago maybe you should look up the answers to the questions before posting.

    As it turned out only 1 of the 3 men had cjd when their brains were studied. The other two had different disorders that werent prion diseases. One died from picks disease and the other a degenerative neurological disease.

    As far as your other claim about Alzheimer's that is another study that has been proven. Alzheimer's is not a prion disease.

    https://www.the-scientist.com/news-analysis/cwd-tests-negative-52444


    http://cwd-info.org/lab-findings-released-on-fatal-cases-of-neurologic-diseases-in-outdoorsmen/



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    He may have been thinking about dementia, which is a prion disease.
     
  12. DecoySlayer

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    I did not say a word about EHD. I did not say I was "worried" about CWD. I just said it will get worse. It's not going to go away. I am not "worried" about either disease, there is nothing I can do about either of them.
     
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  13. G20man

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    Cwd spreads ehd does not.
    I'm not sure which is our biggest fear.
    CWD, EHD, DNR or NRC.
     
  14. DirtySteve

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    Wrong again. Dimentia is not a specific "disease" it is a group of symptoms that affects memory, thinking and social skills which can be caused by many diseases.

    It could be accurate to say an Alzheimer's patient is suffering from dementia. It could also be accurate to say a person with cjd or a degenerative nerve disease would end up suffering from dementia. A Critical portion of the brain probably deteriorates in all 3 cases causing the same affect.

    I would liken it to my grandmothers and my mother. The 3 died from a stroke, diabetes complications and cancer. All 3 eventually ended up with fluid in their lungs and their final demise was caused by pneumonia. In reality their deaths were caused by 3 completely different scenarios that caused a similar fatal symptom.





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  15. LG1

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    Dairy cattle have thier own version of CWD.... it’s called Johns’s diesease