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Best place to Bear hunt in UP

Discussion in 'MichiganBear.com' started by FSUhunter, Jun 8, 2016.

  1. Rooster Cogburn

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    Surprised to learn 2016 preliminary black bear harvest data is now available. Can someone post it...I don't know howS
     
  2. TVCJohn

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    Haven't found it yet. Did find this from a January 2016 document.

    Bear hunter surveys
    Each spring, the DNR issues results of its bear hunter mail surveys. The 2014 Michigan Black Bear Hunter Survey provides the most recent survey statistics on bear hunters and their methods:

    • Eighty-five percent of hunters relied primarily on bait alone.
    • About 11 percent relied primarily on dogs alone or a combination of baiting and dogs.
    • Eighty-two percent of bears harvested were taken over bait.
    • Baiting hunters had a 28-percent success rate, while hunters using dogs had a 37-percent success rate.
    • The success rate for hunters who used a guide was 43 percent.
    • About 12 percent of Michigan’s 662 hunters hired a guide, which accounted for about 19 percent of the statewide bear harvest.
    • Across Michigan, 78 percent of successful applicants purchased a bear hunting license.
     

  3. TVCJohn

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    http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10366_54559_10402-396987--,00.html

    2016 bear hunting season now complete
    Contact: Kevin Swanson, 906-458-1889
    Agency: Natural Resources

    Nov. 3, 2016

    With more than half of Michigan’s counties open to bear hunting, bear harvest is an important management tool to maintain a healthy bear population that is in balance with its habitat.

    Nearly 6,900 successful bear applicants received bear hunting licenses for staggered hunting seasons that started as early as Sept. 9 and ended as late as Oct. 26.

    “Michigan’s black bear season is designed to provide a quality hunt,” said Department of Natural Resources bear specialist Kevin Swanson. “With many different hunting seasons kicking off in September, we spread out the effort of bear hunters and the end result is an impressive success rate.”

    Bear seasons are set by bear management unit, with a quota of licenses available by area. Michigan has 10 bear management units, with the majority of bear licenses available in the Upper Peninsula, where the majority of the black bear population is found.

    “We estimate the adult bear population in the U.P. to be approximately 9,700 individuals and the Lower Peninsula to be about 2,000 bear,” said Swanson. “Because of the population differences, a majority of the harvested bear come from the Upper Peninsula.”

    See 2016 bear hunting license quotas and drawing results.

    Official bear harvest information will be available in early 2017, when all bear harvest surveys and mandatory bear check information is compiled. Preliminary harvest information suggests that bear hunters have had good success, and many have shared stories of their hunts at the mandatory bear check or by phone calls and email. Within 72 hours of harvest, every successful bear hunter must visit a bear check station, give information about their hunt, and a small non-functional tooth is collected to determine the bear's age and to provide a DNA sample.

    Don’t forget to apply for your 2017 bear preference points from May 1 to June 1. Learn about the bear drawing with this video and sign up to receive DNR email to stay informed and never miss an application period again.

    The Michigan Department of Natural Resources is committed to the conservation, protection, management, use and enjoyment of the state’s natural and cultural resources for current and future generations. For more information, go to www.michigan.gov/dnr.
     
  4. base3ecorse

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    I am burning 4 pt this coming season for 1st or 2nd in bergland hopefully. I want guided over bait. what is a premium spot.
     
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    Hello TVCJOHN,

    I also seen this at Jay's in Clare also. I called them an Ed claimed it's 800 then it's a fee for the liscense for bear an fishing. so roughly about $1000. does not included food or drinks.
    I may give them a try an give my opinion after the hunt.
     
  6. TVCJohn

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    Most places I've seen up there do not include the bear tag, fishing license or export permit. Doing your own food is fine. That gives you flexibility to eat when you want, not at their meal times.

    Here are a few things I might ask them. Do they provide lodging that is nearby the baits, if so that is a pretty nice. You should ask for references, current pics of the bears harvested and currently on cam, are alot of locals hunting nearby, wound policy, bear retrieval/cleaning, cold storage/freezer, how many hunters they run thru, how many baits, are the baits active during the daytime ("active" baits at night do you no good), will you be getting fresh baits or has someone else already been hunting off them, stands or blinds, are the baits deep in the woods or near a high traffic two-track, how often do they re-bait, no bear sighted policy (refund or return?), are they licensed/insured.

    The bait questions are important because you don't want cold baits, only night time activity or a bait with only sows and cubs hitting it. The outfitter should have several fresh back up baits to move hunters to should something go wrong with the first bait they put you on. I've heard of horror stories about outfits not having enough baits or telling the hunters you're stuck with the bait you're assigned even if it is cold or night time activity or only young bears.
     
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  7. Neptune

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    I've never bear hunted but collect preference points cause I knew I would some day. I have 14 point and I think this is my year. I will keep my eyes open on this forum and hopefully find the right guide to get me on one. All I know at this point is that I want to hunt the UP because I love it up there (I'm north of Detroit) and I want to hunt over bait. I look forward to reading as much as I can from everyone.

    Ken
     
  8. base3ecorse

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    DITTO. LOOKING FOR A GREAT BERGLAND HUNT. HIT ME UP WITH ANY GOOD INFO. SO FAR BEARS NINE PINES RESORT.
     
  9. Rooster Cogburn

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    Ken,

    There's no way I would waste 14 points on a bear hunt in the Bergland BMU. There's a good reason the DNR allocates more kill tags in the Bergland unit than there are applicants for. Basically,
    folks lost interest in hunting here.

    With 14 points you almost for sure could draw a tag in the Bladwin unit. MDNR has very protective of that unit, and have not overharvested like they did in most every other unit. Big bears and lots of them in Baldwin.

    But, you can definitely find someone who will take your money for a guided hunt in the Bergland unit.
     
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  10. base3ecorse

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    ROOSTER WHAT WOULD YOUR TOP 3 UNITS BE TO HUNT WITH A LOWER NUMBER OF POINTS. I WOULD LIKE TO KILL A NICE BEAR. OVER 200 LB. I DONT WANT TO WAIT 6 PLUS YEARS TO HUNT.
     
  11. Rooster Cogburn

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    Base, For someone living in the lower I'd give serious consideration to bear hunting in Canada.
    Cost is about the same as here and more than twice the number of bears than Michigan. Maybe closer than places in the U.P. for you.

    There are several veteran bear hunters on here that hunt Ontario and they could likely give you good advice on setting up your hunt. No drawing for kill tags either.

    If you still want to bear hunt in Michigan you can check with Kevin Swanson our Bear & Wolf Specialist on which units have the highest hunter success. You can email him at swansonk@michigan.gov.

    I live in the Bergland BMU and have hunted here for 49 years. Aside from training season in Wisconsin once in awhile...its the only place I bear hunt. Can't afford to take hunting trips. Damn shame. This was once excellent bear country.
     
  12. DefenseAuditor

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    I am. Kevin 248-892-8812
     
  13. mydogisscout

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    I value SRCONNELL's advise, I'm a licensed bear guide here in Michigan. I have a Facebook page and I rarely if ever do any advertising. In fact, I opted out of being on the DNR's list of licensed guides.
    I have found that the MS guys are the hardest group to guide for for the main reason that if they aren't successful the first thing they do is go run a thread on here bashing the guide.they start in telling everyone what the guide should have done/not done.
    Success is a idealism, it's what's in your mind. I didn't kill a bear last year, but my hunt was a sucess. I saw birds and animals and enjoyed being outside in gods country. I shared a campfire with some great people, met some amazing individuals and caught fish with people I might've never met under daily circumstances. I ran baits, cut logs, sweated my nuts off and froze to death in the same day.
    My wife says "I wish I could take a month off work to go spend in the UP where I don't have to do anything but fish" that was before she came up and I took her on a bait run. First thing out of her mouth when we got back to camp was " I need a shower ".
    If the guide does the work, and the hunter honors the guides work, and does his part by staying scent free, quiet, not smoking in the blind, not leaving the bait early, and hunts hard there is a reasonable expectation for success. Thanks for reading my rant guys, happy hunting, shoot straight -Matt
     
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