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Best place to Bear hunt in UP

Discussion in 'MichiganBear.com' started by FSUhunter, Jun 8, 2016.

  1. FSUhunter

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    I will have 8 points next year and am looking to do a guided bear hung in the UP. I would like to go to the west end somewhere towards Houghton. Anyone have experience with this?
     
  2. Blue Plague

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    Give me a call 989-560-6936 might be able to help you out
     

  3. Firefighter

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    I'd stick back towards the Red Oak-ish area :) They run Newberry as well and do great if you're hung on the UP (although it's not West).
     
  4. srconnell22

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    The first question you need to answer for your guide search is whether you want to hunt over bait or with dogs.

    That will narrow your search tremendously.

    If you want a hound hunt in the far west end of the UP, I'd call Darrell Jonet. If blue plague goes that far west, they will put you on a bear as well.
     
  5. TVCJohn

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    Rooster should be able to help you when he reads this.
     
  6. Rooster Cogburn

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    FSUhunter,

    Going to all the effort of accumulating 8 points my suggestion is to do your homework and look at the Bear Management Units with the highest hunter success rates. Why would you throw away 8 hard earned points on a hunt
    where success is only 24% or 25%? In comparison, Wisconsin's hunter success rate is twice that.

    Another resource for you would be to contact Kevin Swanson for his advice. He's our Bear & Wolf Specialist...and a straight shooter.

    If I was going to pay somebody for a guided hunt it sure wouldn't be in Michigan. I'd go to Ontario where there is no need to accumulate points, and hell of a lot more bear.
     
  7. FSUhunter

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    Who is a good guide in the red oak area? bait hunt
     
  8. Blue Plague

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    I can still help you out
     
  9. Forest Meister

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    I hate to disagree with Rooster but I don't think it fair to paint any BMU with a broad brush. Get the right guide (or hunt the right spot on a DIY hunt) in even the BMU with the lowest overall success rate and you should have an excellent chance of tagging a bruin. Hire a boo zoo and even on Drummond Island where the success rate has been running 100% (one tag/year for non-tribal) and you might be the one and only person to eat tag soup. FM
     
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  10. Rooster Cogburn

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    Forest, I do not find fault with your statement. You are right, a hunter willing to put the time in BMU's with lower success rates can have a successful hunt. Its just that from the perspective of an individual who has spent 8 years banking points for what is likely a lifetime dream hunt is a bit more of a gamble than it needs to be....especially when you consider some of the individuals folks have posted about on this website posing as guides.

    For the money, this individual's best opportunity is Ontario. Maybe some of the folks who hunt Ontario would post about their experiences there.
     
  11. Blue Plague

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    Rooster nobody is posing we have a 100% success rate and why always bashing on someone maybe this man that is a Michigan resident wants to kill a bear in his home state he asked for references and it seems that these comments always goes somewhere else than what the actual question was
     
  12. BearMagnum

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    Being a resident of the western UP and having killed bears in the 3rd season on DIY bait hunts in 3 different BMU's, if I had 8 points to burn and wanted to go the bait route I without question would be putting in for a 1st period Amasa tag. If you wanted to go the hound route I would go with an Amasa or Bergland 2nd period tag (although with 8 points you are spending significantly more points than necessary for 2nd period tags). That being said I totally agree with Forest Meister that a prime tag is only as good as the spot in the BMU you are hunting. There are places in the UP that rival Canada in terms of bear density ( I have also hunted DIY in Ontario so I am speaking from experience). There also a great many places that if you set up a bait site you will never see a bear. If you spend some time scouting, learning about bear behavior, and put the work into the baiting season, the UP can offer a world class bear hunt in your own home state.
     
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  13. Rooster Cogburn

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    Sorry I offended you Plague. He asked for opinions. My statements were well intended.
     
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  14. TVCJohn

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    IMO....Rooster is putting out some relative info for anyone, in this case FSU, who come here to MS asking about a MI bear hunt and may not be familiar with how to go about choosing a location and/or a guide to give themselves the best chance to success. It appears you just joined MS?? If you do a search you will locate threads here talking about some of the problems hunters ran into with so called "bear guides". Most of the times it's after the fact and the bitterness and sting is still there. The Yoop seems to be popular thread topic for bear guide issues of various sorts.

    I think it is pretty cool that (neutral) folks who have alot of experience in this subject are willing to take the time to offer up some sound advice to a prospective MI bear hunter BEFORE he/she/group/father/son/husband/wife commits their valuable dollars and years of preference point saving to an area and a guide. If I was a newbie, that is the type of info I would want.
     
  15. srconnell22

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    Neutral is the last word I would use to describe Rooster (or Rich depending on what forum he is on). He is here for one reason and one reason only. To bash hunting guides with unsubstantiated claims of wrongdoing and unethical behavior, casting a negative light upon all guiding in Michigan. That along with blaming the DNR for why he can't find a bear. It must be everyone's fault except his that he can't find a bear. Look up his posts. It's the same story every three weeks or so. He clams up like a two year old that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar any time you ask him to prove anything he spews as "facts".

    With that said, I do appreciate the knowledge and info he shares with people that may be interested in a DIY bear hunt. For that, I believe he adds value to the bear forum.

    Now don't get me wrong, I understand there are a few bad apples in guiding, just as there are in any line of work. I've had to clean up their mess a few times over the last 6-7 years or so. It goes without saying one needs to do their due diligence in researching a prospective guide or outfitter rather than just handing them the cash and hoping for the best. I think due diligence would best describe FSUhunter's intentions in creating this thread.

    As for Blue Plague, I can tell you that while he may be new to this forum, he is not new to bear or bobcat. His name is Chris and he and Marcus (Blue Plague Guide Service) have some of the best blue dogs in the state of Michigan. They catch bear and cover a lot of territory in the meantime. There aren't many groups that can start in the southern end of the bear range in the lower peninsula and catch bear all the way up past the bridge and through to the west end of the UP year in and year out. They do it every year.

    I would have no problem recommending him to someone that asks about a guide and I am extremely picky with who I will put my name on as a recommendation.
     
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